Questioner: Rudi

My question how can I confirm my residence (address) to immigration as I live in my girlfriend's house for free so I have no proof of electricity payments or anything like that.

Is it sufficient if we mutually draw up a rental contract for the sum of, for example, 20.000 baht per month in rent, all included. My girlfriend can show her proof. Owned house is that also proof? Or is there the possibility that I have my stay determined by the local police and/or that I have the neighbors and or the residents in the small Isaan village of barely 40 houses sign a document that I am staying there?

What options do I have?

Rudi – Belgium

ps can someone let me know where I can find a good lawyer in Kalsin


Reaction RonnyLatYa

Proof of residence can be provided by:

– a rental contract and does not immediately have to state a certain amount.

– her blue Tabien Baan which proves the address and statement that you are staying there is sometimes also sufficient. They don't have to prove ownership.

– TM30 report she has to make from the day you stay there

– TM47 notifications

… ..,

It depends on what your immigration office sees as sufficient proof, but one or more of the above should certainly suffice.

A lawyer, let alone a good one, in Kalsin (I guess this must be Kalasin?) I don't know. Perhaps readers can help you here.

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13 Responses to “Thailand Visa Question No. 023/21: How to Confirm Address at Immigration?”

  1. Willem says up

    First of all, let me report directly to TM30. Subsequently, my landlord always draws up a rental contract. He sends it to me signed by him. I sign myself before I go to immigration. There is not even an amount and the period is longer than strictly necessary. Never had any problem.

  2. Rudolph Verstegen says up

    Dear Rudi,

    That's very simple:

    Request the yellow booklet from your municipality and you're done!

    Greetings,

    Ruud

  3. Eddy says up

    Another option: if you want your name spelled in Thai ;-), is to go to the amphur with your girlfriend for a yellow tabien job with your name on it. Sometimes you also get a pink identity card for free.

    So far I have not had to submit a residence permit. I have used the yellow tabien lane 3 times, 1 time when opening a bank account and 2 times at the transport office to get/renew my Thai driver's license.

    I think a lease or statement is easiest.

    • janbeute says up

      I also have the yellow booklet, but it is not necessary at all.
      You go to the Amphur with your Thai spouse or girlfriend with her blue book or rental contract or something and then after the immi you get the TM30, believe me the rest will go by itself.
      No expensive lawyer involved.

      Jan Beute.

      • RonnyLatYa says up

        He just asks if anyone knows a good lawyer in Kalasin?
        So it has nothing to do with his address anyway. He may need it for any number of reasons.

    • janbeute says up

      Eddy, the pink Thai ID, whatever it's worth, you can always get it for free, if you ask for it of course.

      Jan Beute.

  4. henk appleman says up

    have your girlfriend have her father make you a yellow book, house registration booklet, under the guise of you having a moment; want to use to 'well prepared' to get married and live together”, is no joke, for example, I know someone who registered a Dutchman as a home owner through his girlfriend's father, who never lived there, but was able to take out a Thai life insurance policy….

  5. Ralph van Rijk says up

    Is it true that you will be cut back on your state pension when you move in with your girlfriend, if you are honest and give this up, or is it not running so fast that you are being checked, so to speak.

    • janbeute says up

      Simple answer if you are checked you are well off.
      Because this is fraud of the social security requirements of the SVB in the Netherlands with regard to the AOW
      If you live alone in Thailand on your own, you will not be cut, if you live with a Thai girl, married or unmarried, you will be cut.
      Honesty is the best policy I always say.

      Jan Beute.

    • TheoB says up

      Ralph van Rijk,

      You will not be reduced on your AOW benefit (50% statutory minimum wage per person) if you run a joint household. You will receive a supplement of 20% on top of your AOW benefit if you live alone.

      Because the Netherlands and Thailand have concluded a treaty about checking benefits, you can be visited by SSO inspectors (possibly together with UWV inspectors). If it is found that you have unjustly received a single person's allowance, this must be repaid together with a (substantial) fine with retroactive effect up to 3 years.
      You will also receive the fraudster stamp. (Think of the victims of the childcare allowance affair who, after being labeled fraudsters, were treated as pariahs by all authorities.)
      It's up to you whether you want to take that risk.

      • Erik says up

        TheoB, fraud can never be justified and if someone falls through the basket, I have no problem with that. I would like to see the word single person's allowance replaced by the single person's benefit.

        The control by the SSO is nothing; my partner always accompanied me to the SSO, but critical questions remained unanswered. I've never had a checkup at home.

        • TheoB says up

          Erik,

          You're right. 😉
          I hereby change the word single person's allowance to single person's pension (70% of the net statutory minimum wage per person).
          Furthermore, the abbreviation UWV must be replaced by SVB.
          https://www.svb.nl/nl/aow
          https://www.svb.nl/nl/aow/alleen-wonen-of-met-1-of-meer-personen/u-woont-alleen

          If you have stated that you live together in Thailand, there will be little reason to check. Unless you still receive allowances from the Netherlands in Thailand.

  6. Lungfons says up

    Isaan LAWERS Korat, very good law firm, English, Thai and French speaking


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