Reader question: How do I get in touch with a Thai woman?
I have been reading your website for some time and was wondering if you could help me? I am looking for a relationship with a Thai woman.
Also, I don't know how to do that? I've never been in Thailand been. I don't see going on the bonnetip. I'd like to go there if I can meet a woman there.
I myself have been divorced for six years and I need something new again. In my environment that is not easy and certainly not at my age. A Thai woman appeals to me. But I don't want a woman who is only after money. I don't like a dating site because there are so many of them and which one is good. You never know in advance. I'm not very handy with computers. Can email and view websites, but not all that new stuff.
I am 58 years old, of normal stature and have a job. My house is big enough that she can live here in no time. It may also be a friend of your wife or an acquaintance. I think it's more reliable that someone knows her and it's not a bar type or something.
Can you or others on the website help me and tips to give?
Greetings from Piet from Dronten
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@ Piet, there are plenty of beautiful and sweet Thai women looking for a foreign man. The motives for this are often social, such as better future prospects. Not infrequently, a woman (and the man too, of course) has a past. Think of a child(ren) from a previous relationship. Given your limited knowledge of Thailand and Thai culture, I would advise you not to plunge into the unknown. A lasting relationship with a Thai is no sinecure, you encounter many obstacles such as culture, language, prejudices, etc. You will have to open yourself up to a different way of thinking and acting. Much differs from what we are used to in the west. This requires patience, understanding, empathy and perseverance. Also assume that you, on your part, will have to change more than she will. So give a lot and take little.
A relationship with a Thai woman may seem like a simple and easy choice, but in practice it is not. To be honest, very few relationships last (I don't have exact numbers but I once read that about 75% of relationships fail sooner or later). I think also because Thai women initially make less demands on a relationship, but eventually more and more. In addition, they are often powerful personalities who know well what they want and what they can expect from a relationship. That means you have to have something to offer yourself. Not just money or a good job, but you also have to be an interesting guy to her and not a boring sock.
Actually not much different than in the west…
Hi
I completely agree with Peter, it is a real battle, I was first 4,5 years with a Thai that went wrong why? She was in life going through more here and didn't want to stop. Moreover, tons of money went to Thailand while it was of no use here, they drowned it and gambled it away, which is often also the general problem!
I am now 23 years old with my 2nd Thai wife (she works as a cook in a Thai restaurant in Amsterdam) and has never been happy in life!! We have a son of almost 18 who is going to law school. So it's possible, but I certainly haven't had it easy. You have to give and take, understand the culture and well Thai cuisine is formidable. I am lucky that her family is very good to me, they are lovely people and that is also something you have to hit man.
My idea is to go to a Thai party to see what it is all about, but don't be discouraged because you also have to be careful here because people think they can make a profit (not all of them) but again you must hit it.
Where do you live? In your place of residence, go to a Thai restaurant for something to eat, ask the waitress where/when there is a party, you will have to do something if you want to, at a massage club, yes, you can, but that's where you WATCH OUT .
You can also: Go to Thailand with a friend or acquaintance and experience the experience yourself! then you still have some support because there are two of you .
You can buy a book Thai for a holidaymaker or something like that at a bookstore, V&D often has something like that. look on the Internet for Thai restaurants for the addresses.
Again, there are certainly cuties, but it is certainly not a cheap affair these days, before she can finally stay here because the requirements are strict!!! I'm sorry to say it but honestly, I would say good luck and make something of it.
Ronald
Dear,
It is not because someone has Thai nationality that this gives you more rights. Mutual respect is the basis! You have to try to be an interesting partner yourself if you want to succeed. You're not in a supermarket to pick just any woman. The Thai have a very strong personality and are proud of their heritage. The cultural differences are a fait accompli and it takes mutual patience and very good communication to accept these differences. I am lucky enough to have been married to such a person for several years. I would grant it to you, but inquire as much as possible with "experience experts" before you take steps in that direction. It will save you a lot of disappointments and hopefully put you on the road to a happy future. I give it to you wholeheartedly!
Is this really a serious question? I would almost say, Piet lives in Dronten, let him contact Arthur in Harderwijk, who knows the ins and outs!
@ Gringo, I've had email contact with Piet and he's not Arthur's brother 😉 Maybe I should have rewritten it a bit. Incidentally, we regularly receive these kinds of questions by email. We don't normally post that (we're not a dating agency), but this one is an exception.
Haha, thanks Gringo for laughing hard again... 🙂
I would say go out for dinner in a Thai restaurant only then. That's how I got my love
Piet doesn't like a dating site because there are so many of them and you don't know in advance which one is good or not.
According to the prevailing logic, we can deduce that Piet also doesn't like a Thai woman, because there are so many of them and you don't know in advance whether she is good or not.
It seems to me an illusion that before you visit Thailand someone is selected for you who is reliable, is not just after money and is not a bar type.
Piet, just go to Thailand on spec, without the intention of hooking up with a woman for the rest of your life, and don't tell them that you live in Dronten. 🙂
Why not tell us where Dronten is located, most Thais do not even know where the Netherlands is, if you point it on a globe with your finger, the Netherlands is no longer visible.
oh well there are plenty of greenies walking around there and certainly here
and if you have to go to Thailand only for women
then something is wrong with you
there is so much to do and see there
you can also go to the ramparts they are there too
you know exactly what they look like
it is ladies and not cattle that are up for sorting
Dear Adam,
I bow in the dust before your, no doubt, immense experience.
According to you, there are vegetables, here and especially there.
Dear Aad, I could be wrong of course, but I can't escape the idea that a lot of men come to Thailand to meet women.
For fun only, for fun and maybe a relationship, or even just for a relationship.
What is wrong with that?
I think your comparison with the professional ladies in the red light district is a bit crooked, I also don't understand the connection with the question above, but perhaps I don't see your way of thinking very clearly.
Many men indeed come to Thailand in the hope of finding a relationship. if you have no chances on the Dutch “market”, which I can imagine, then the chance to find a relationship in Thailand is a bit simpler.
That there are forests of hooks and eyes in such a relationship, that's rather wiedes.
But just compare that with a relationship with a Dutch woman. There are many more snags to it…….
If you start looking for a second chance abroad with a wealth of experience in your pocket, you may not speak of a cattle market but of a meat market, but you can be sure that the other side also thinks the same way.
And, given the experience, what's wrong with that.
Truly, a marriage in the second round, shall I say, don't just close your eyes to the beautiful eyes, you actually think a bit businesslike about that.
But a cattle market, the ramparts, something isn't quite right, rookies here and there?
Some powerful statements.
Hello
I come from a family of 7 children. All seven married a Dutch woman at the age of 20-25. Later, 4 divorced and 1 became a widower.
all 5 have started a new relationship, 1 with a Dutch person and 4 with a foreigner
thai, danish, polish and australian
Well I can tell you that that has only caused problems too many to mention all here now there have already been 3 divorces
Let me tell you this I have been together with a Dutch woman for 40 years and leave all those foreign cultures where they belong in many cases they do not go together or you have to put a lot of water into the wine and that is usually not enough you have to give more and more you have to adapt but they don't no thank you
GR William
[quote]just go to Thailand on spec, without the intention of immediately hooking up with a woman for the rest of your life[/quote]
Sounds like a good tip to me. I wonder why you are specifically looking for a thai. In the text I somehow read the feeling “easy”. That seems like a misguided idea to me. Indeed, just go that way, and then not to pattaya or phuket. Thailand is big. But that's just my idea.
pete,
I have a nice mother-in-law on offer for free and for nothing, can be delicious
cook but does not speak a word of English.
In my opinion, that is also the biggest problem, the bar types can often speak a little English, but the neat ladies, let alone the Netherlands, and I'm not that for that relationship agency either.
There are plenty of Thai ladies who want a farang and are not necessarily just after your money, every farang can confirm that often enough they or their wife girlfriend are asked if that farang doesn't have a brother uncle cousin for them. Coincidentally last week
happened to my girlfriend.
Think it's also a good idea that you're going to do it that way, you have anyway
a bit of shifting.
But also do what French says, at least sniff the Thai culture a bit first, you may not like it all.
I myself went to Thailand with an acquaintance at the time, it was not the intention to go to Thailand at all, but that is how it turned out. at least you already have some support.
Was divorced for 5 years at the time, and certainly had no preference for tinted ladies.
But a year later I still went and cupid hit the target, I can heartily recommend it to you, a Thai lady, they just have a slightly different manual than the Western woman.
Look has been searched for on the marketplace for travel companions or place an ad yourself, who knows
Dear Pete,
Think before you begin.
I don't know anything about you in person, but take it from me that it is very difficult to find a "suitable" lady. Most ladies have the wrong idea of the farang and expect you to take them to fairyland financially, including the whole family.
The cultural difference is very large, this only really comes up once you have become involved in a relationship. Make sure you can communicate very well, otherwise you will be lost anyway. Believe me, at first you don't understand the whole reasoning and reactions.
Given the above, if I were you I would bet on an educated, self-confident, financially independent, mature lady. Preferably to a government officer who has been recommended to you by an acquaintance or family member. Don't think that these ladies are immediately jumping when you see you, after all they don't need anything from you. But if you have a match, then you have a reliable woman who will take good care of you. After all, if a Thai woman loves you, she will pay for everything for you. (I speak from experience)
If you just want sex, get on the plane and the willing ladies will fall like rotten pears from the tree.
I never went to Thailand for the women. The last thing on my mind was to marry a Thai. But I have been happily married to a Thai for 2.5 years now and have not regretted it. Where I met her just happened to be in a Thai temple somewhere on the Mekong purely by chance. And it's like Peter said, actually they are no different than in the west. I think people are broadly the same everywhere on this globe, they just do everything in a different way that sometimes makes it seem that they are different.
Dear Pete,
I have been bimedial for 15 years now for men from the Netherlands and Belgium with great success.
Come and talk without obligation.
Who knows what I can do for you.
And what does that cost? I know enough who do something like this and who ask the lady in question in Thailand a small 4000 euros as agency costs. The purest human trafficking.
Piet, take an organized tour of about 3 weeks. Then you will get to know the country and the people a bit. And when you are back in the Netherlands, you can think about what you want.
This man who apparently knows nothing about it is completely wrong.
The reactions are the most fun to read, so I assume that the editors made up this letter from Piet. Good idea!
Personally, I have a kind of “roots” feeling with Asia and with people from Asia, so a relationship with someone from Asia was much more obvious to me than with a Russian or Nigerian.
When entering into or looking for a relationship, feeling should play an important role and that is precisely what I do not gather from Piet's letter. For that reason alone, an attempt by Piet seems to me to be doomed to failure.
Relationships are already difficult, especially when a language and culture barrier is added. Then much (or actually more) adjustment, love and sacrifice love is needed from both sides.
Chang Noi
@ If only Chang Noi. You have no idea what we receive by email. For example, there was a Belgian who wanted to help the flooded Thai. Only the ladies. If only she had come to Belgium and moved in with him. If we could arrange that. The only condition of this gentleman: she had to be beautiful…
Without meaning this negatively. But it is better to ask the question: "How do I, in good decency, get rid of a Thai woman?". Getting a Thai woman is not a problem at all, they are waiting for you in rows of ten.
Lol, well….
That shouldn't be difficult:
1) If you chose the easy route and chose a lady from the queue, the solution is simple: Don't give any more gold, close the money tap.
2) Have you found one after long travels etc. then you probably have a woman who supports you through thick and thin, even if you have no work (for a while). Then the question is, why do you want to get rid of it?
3) -Success assured- : Flirting with ladies who are younger and prettier than her. Don't forget to put the knives away first!
Ha, Anton. You do have a point there…. in any case, don't bring the bad news into the kitchen…. a friend of mine was chased by a fierce Thai with a kitchen knife (so Rob's suggestion is not unfounded).
I keep laughing at the comments here.
I would never specifically look for a Thai woman, there are plenty of interesting, sweet women. You have to meet a partner. Purposefully looking for a certain type of partner seems to me to have quite a few risks: Choosing too quickly for a certain lady, (unconsciously) falling for a woman whose feelings are not actually mutual.
I now have a Thai, but that's pure coincidence. I made a tour through half of Thailand and made contacts with men and women here and there. I do that on all my (far) trips. Most contacts fade quite quickly, some become acquaintances and so on. After returning to the Netherlands I maintained good contacts with her, still neither of us had the idea that this could become a relationship. Perhaps also because she is older than me, yes it remains a cliché but she assumed that I was looking for someone younger than me, and I assumed that she would rather look for someone older than her. But the contact turned out to be more than good, and more than friendly, soon sparks flew… So far I have no regrets, but I think it is a coincidence (or “fate” if necessary) that I now have a Thai .
This is not meant to be wrong, but I, as a young Dutch man, sometimes wonder why (older) Dutch/Western men are looking for a (young) Thai (or Filipino or other Asian country of choice) woman. Then you quickly get the idea that people are looking for something "tasty". A vague acquaintance of mine, in her mid-50s, insists on an Asian lady of 25-30 years old, who looks good, etc. Time and time again he is cheated, she either turns out to be after his money, a residence permit or the relationship simply breaks down because of the many differences. But another lady (older, western, ….) no, never that. He must and will one day find what he is looking for, he believes…
I don't know how I feel about women when I'm in my 50s, of course 20-30 year old ladies are still hot, I can imagine that I would like to dive into the suitcase with a beautiful young girl. A relationship becomes more difficult. What is the chance that someone of 25 is genuinely head over heels in love with a 50-something? It is possible, but you can count them on one hand. I think five years younger or older is a good guideline (not an absolute rule!) for a potential partner).
But to come back to your question: I would just enjoy traveling, to Thailand but also other countries. Strike up conversations with the locals. Stay away from the bars and hookers if you're looking for a relationship (if you want to go there for short and quick entertainment, go ahead, but don't be fooled!). Also make trips in your own country, if necessary visit a (Thai?) restaurant. Don't go "looking" for the woman, just enjoy yourself and who knows what you will encounter. What happened to me and others can also happen to you. If you still want a Thai woman who chooses your personality, then it seems realistic to me to limit yourself to women who are also of age (45+?), and who have it reasonably well done in terms of work, income, roof above their heads, see the aforementioned advice from a "female civil servant") and who therefore only choose you because you offer them love, because otherwise they need nothing/little from you. One that chooses who you are.
In any case, good luck.
I left for Thailand purely for economic reasons. I was looking for a country where I could enjoy myself. But soon I found out that you don't get very far without good ega, ie if you want to lead a normal and respectable life. After all, you don't know a damn about the country and living is something completely different from vacation.
So after wandering around for 4 months, I didn't get any further than the barmaids in question. Nice, very nice, but unsuitable for what I had in mind. When I returned to the Netherlands, I had to confess that I did not believe that I would ever get a real wife. Something pure, something real, something with a future. Someone who would also support me. Moreover, the mind also needs nourishment. Someone with whom you can converse well and therefore write and speak the English language excellently.
It was purely by chance that I got acquainted with my wife (39). Dumb luck maybe. Yes Yes…. internet.
Now years later, I know many Thai ladies, civil servant, single, wealthy. I also know that they don't just hook up with the first guy from the Netherlands. You must have an equal personality (so I'm not talking about money), after all, the ladies have status. That's very different from our frog country, where you just say Klaas to the doctor. Dating is also very different from what we are used to. Besides, if the parents don't like you, the party won't happen.
success
Assume this letter sent in is a joke? Or you have to be very stupid, simple, unworldly and naive to display yourself like that. And if so, then Khun Peter should protect people like this person and not publish it. At least, I would never have done that. That's why I think this is a fake message, but of course I'm not sure.
@Bert, I know my responsibilities so you don't have to point that out to me. E-mail contact preceded the publication. I pointed this out to the man in question, but he insisted that it be posted, even with his full name. Of course I have did not done. The first name and place of residence are therefore fake.
I don't think we should judge whether someone is stupid, simple or naive. That sounds like disdain from your readers. Someone can also be really desperate. The responses show that he is warned by experts by experience. He can then draw his own conclusions.
@Pete from Dronten.
If you wish to marry a Thai woman, consider the following:
* You will have to deal with major cultural differences, a considerable language barrier, major differences in mentality, usually major differences in social position, usually major differences in education, major differences in age, etc.
* The mutual expectations of the relationship. The farang dreams of a young, beautiful and sexy woman, who can cook well, likes to do the housework and is also there for him all day long. The Thai dreams of a farang that will take her and her family out of financial misery. I'm exaggerating a little here, but hopefully you get what I mean by this.
* All practical matters, such as integration, visas, travel to and fro and the costs of all this. Which will soon run into the many thousands of euros.
This is a (very) narrow basis for a relationship and practice shows that most relationships fail after a number of years.
So my advice: First go to Thailand a few times, without the intention of meeting your princess right away. Take care and learn as much as possible from the culture and language. Try to understand and fathom the mentality of the Thai as much as possible. We are now several years further. Do you still want a Thai wife? Then start looking seriously. Opportunities all over.
I agree. So don't just look at the packaging. Of course every (?) man or woman wants a partner who looks a bit nice or even sexy. But understanding each other, having a click, is just as important in the long run.
With point 1 it is a matter of seeing whether people are on the same page, there will be differences, and that also has something. But if the difference becomes very large, then it becomes difficult, I think. You must have enough matches.
Point 2, well, don't make yourself illusions. The chance that you hook up with a beauty queen and have a long-term relationship with it seems small to me. So you can forget about such “booty”, but then there are still plenty of nice ladies who look pretty nice. Don't chase your ***, don't give her the illusion that you're rich and that money isn't an issue. Turning the money tap further on during the relationship is not difficult, turn the tap a bit more… well… Maintain each other well, respect each other, don't promise mountains of gold.
And the costs, they will not decrease. The residence permit, integration, etc. are becoming increasingly expensive under the guise of 'own responsibility'. Well in terms of costs (the government/community cannot contribute to paperwork, exams, etc. blah blah blah), but when it comes to participating in society, no, then “own responsibility” is not enough, then the government wants you through jumping all kinds of hoops (and knocking some more euros out of your pocket). The good must suffer for the bad. Unfortunately.
Just returned from a three week trip through Thailand. Also saw something in a nice Thai lady… but wanted to explore the country a bit first…. Seen a lot, especially temples and markets and smelled a lot (open sewers?). Also a very low standard of living and not at all comparable to the Netherlands. Spoken by several 'live ladies', first for karaoke, then for beer or other drink and finally for sex. (I am 63 and she was -according to say 19…..) in Chiang Mai, but also later in Cha-am. After refusal on my part, the famous 'eternal smile' suddenly disappeared, the chewing gum was spat out and curses were hurled at me, so I think I made the right choice.
Later spoke a few times with a 45-year-old Belgian in Cha-am, married to a Thai 15 years younger and ran a kind of beauty salon with her, or rather she ran the business while he was bored all day long (read beer drink…). This Thai had already kicked him 3 broken ribs after a 'discord'. He also missed his children aged 12 and 14 living in Belgium, he called his old father in Belgium almost every day and was fed up with Thai food.
I also tried a go-go girl once to do 'boom-boom' (after all, you have to experience it once for a correct assessment…), she told me she was 24, but after undressing I felt actually a bit of a pedophile….. I don't think he was older than about 17 years…. And then for the good sex: it is better to call a good escort in the Netherlands, costs a bit more but then you at least get value for money…. In other words, I could have used the 2000 Bath for the go-go + drinks + hotel for a sex-dol….
I just stick with the older Dutch woman.
As a Dutch woman, who has been to Thailand a lot, I understand that many men dream of a Thai lady, the difference in appearance is already so big. The average Dutch placed next to a Thai is about the difference between something very unwieldy and something very graceful and then most Dutch women are also such that they bang their fists on the table, not every man is served by that. And speaking of money, many Dutch women today also believe that a man should have a good income, a house and a large car.
Well said and I don't have much to add
I must admit that I see more attractive ladies in Asia than in the Netherlands: Often a nice build and they come across as less flat, there is a certain charm. be the best). A few years ago I would not have expected (also not ruled out) that I have hooked up with a Thai, although my preference has always been for ladies with dark hair and remarkably often oriental roots.
It's difficult once you have one, if I tell my girlfriend that the average Japanese or Korean lady is just as beautiful or even more beautiful than the Thai one, I get an angry look. If you see a handsome Thai and you say that she looks sexy, it's not good again... 😉
That Asian charm, that has something, graceful, loving, charm, respect, etc. My girlfriend is not perfect, neither am I, but what we offer each other ... fantastic, I would never want to lose that. I don't know if I would just as easily find a Dutch lady who can offer the same. Of course on the basis of equality, the image of a willing, easy cook, clean and sex slave is downright object. Although that cliché is also wrong, those ladies are not that easy, if they don't like something you will know it too!
In terms of income, if the hubby no longer has a job or has to hand in a lot, this will cause problems in many relationships. Money wolves, profiteers, etc. are unfortunately everywhere.
@ Rob, I find or maybe found her more attractive too. I'll keep it to Thailand for now.
Have seen me ugly bellies again in the past month, it doesn't make me happy! You take almost all of them out who have a child, terrible!
The biggest 'problem' with NL women, in my opinion, is that most of them don't groom themselves. Don't look feminine, don't dress feminine and act like men. A friend of mine from Lithuania, who was here in NL for the first time, was surprised by this and called these women: "Men with a deritska". By which she meant men with a vagina. And there, in my opinion, she hit the nail on the head.
I don't know which island you live on, but there are plenty of beautiful female ladies in the Netherlands. Let 'us' guys take a look in the mirror too. Thick rumen, hair out of nose and ears, white socks in sandals and then talking about unattractive 'man- bitches'. Haha. A little more nuance and a little less generalization seems better to me.
You don't know which island I live on, so you don't know what type of man I am and how I look after myself, dress and behave. What are you talking about: thick rumen, hair from the nose and ears, etc. What kind of environment do you come from? Talk about generalization.
If you read my piece carefully, you know that I was talking about most of the NL women. Of course there are women in NL who do take care of themselves, dress well and behave femininely. You see this a lot in the financial world, in the legal profession / justice and at civil-law notaries.
But …… unfortunately you will not have the guts to post this comment.
@ I'm not talking about you either, but about us men in general, dear Anton. You must read carefully!
We (men) are always ready to judge women (both Thai and Dutch) but are we perfect ourselves? Are we setting a good example ourselves?
You now say again: "most of the NL women" So you're talking about the majority? It's up to you, but I don't share that opinion at all. It's that easy. I can also generalize about bad men going to Thailand, it's exactly the same. There is nothing wrong with Dutch women. I find generalizing comments about the majority of Dutch women rather disrespectful. The women around me, including my daughters, always look tip-top.
Generalizing about bad men going to Thailand, yes that's exactly the same. Of course I'm not perfect either, far from it. But when it comes to personal care, the way I dress, my attitude and behavior in general, then I can say without a doubt that I set a good example.
My opinion and experience with Dutch women is not so much a judgment, but more a disappointment. My experience is that women from eg Belgium, Germany, France, Eastern Europe and SE Asia generally look better groomed than most Dutch women. Just walk down the street in any city in the Netherlands. Again this is not a judgment and/or condemnation, but an observation. If the women in your area always look tip-top, then you are clearly, like me, in a community that is in a privileged minority in terms of numbers. That seems like a pleasant observation :).
@ mmm. I'll write about it sometime. I think that the difference in views between women from all over the world is not that great. Separate from culture, religion and customs.
I still believe that the majority of women in the Netherlands take good care of themselves. You do see differences with countries where appearance is more important, such as in Italy. But who determines the size? My message is only, a little more nuance now and then. It will be different from that pre-baked pub talk.
Dear Anton
How in God's name can you rhyme your response with what you previously stated that about half the NL population looks bad while you don't know most of it. if, according to you, Peter says the same about the other half, then all hell breaks loose. You feel addressed. And rightly so. I think he corrected you in a civilized way, I would have done that differently. Your piece is an insult to the NL woman. and trash worthy.
greetings Kees
Dear Kees,
I think we just have different ideas about a self-sufficient woman. What you call well-groomed, I think may leave something to be desired. It's just a matter of where you set the bar. And has nothing to do with insults to a certain population group. Only a matter of taste.
Regards Anton
Dear Anton
First of all, you don't know what kind of man I am. So you don't know what I think is well cared for. If you don't think your piece is offensive Then you're not from an island. but from another planet. I conducted a survey among my 4 beautiful daughters-in-law.
question 1 Not taking good care of oneself. Be perceived as hurtful – Offensive
2 don't look feminine. Be perceived as hurtful – Offensive
3 Don't dress feminine. Do they not agree – Matter of taste
4 Act like men. Weird statement Have to laugh about it
5 They look like manes with a vagina . Downright offensive
I also took a good look at my daughters-in-law, the only one about an arrival with a man that I discover that they also have 2 hands and feet. And they are also much nicer. and my Thai wife agrees wholeheartedly.
My daughters-in-law wondered, giggling, because you said all women look like men; What kind of pubs or bars do you go to? I don't know what she meant by that. Maybe someone can explain that to me
It is clear that you have not understood my pieces at all or do not want to understand. You are not reading them properly and drawing the wrong conclusions. You're putting statements in my mouth that I've never made. Etc. etc. In my opinion that says more about you than it does about me. And as for that "survey" of yours, if you really think it would be anything remotely representative, I suggest you check out a math textbook. So you with all your 'beautiful' women around you clearly have a different taste than me. There is no arguing about that. I don't do that either and therefore consider this discussion closed.
Anton
If I were you I would let the neighbor read the piece, scratch your name or she will never come for coffee again. And then ask her opinion. But you won't do that, you don't like women. I asked one of my beautiful daughter-in-law (she has Dr. before her name) if she wanted to read the piece for me again. I thought I may be missing something, but no, she also remained insulting with her statement. I completely agree with you that we have different taste. And I am very happy with that. as for me putting your claims in your mouth. Read your piece one more time. But if I understand you correctly, you are in higher circles than me, there must also be someone who Dr. for his or I hardly dare to say her name, let him read it maybe he / she can help you further. At least not me. i'm just an ordinary boy. For the rest Anton I wish you all the best and may you meet a nice beautiful good looking woman.
Gentlemen, Kees and Anton, hereby the request not to respond to each other (anymore), but to the article. You guys are repeating yourself and are now very much like chatting. We end the discussion.
Peter, you forgot the fluorescent sports shorts! haha!
Anton, you are partly right, I have a lot of Germans in my circle of acquaintances, and when the ladies go out, even if it's just for an errand, they often change first and their noses are powdered, and I also see that with my Thai female friend.
@ Yes, you can also explain it as uncertainty.
Dutch women are sister, Thai women are like that. Come on guys we're not talking about cars, we're talking about people. Millions even. All individuals that you can't shave with the same brush.
You can also interpret good care as respect for fellow human beings and as an expression of good decency.
Of course, all people are different and that's a good thing.
I only notice that those German ladies, one by one, take good care of themselves, and that has nothing to do with insecurity, on the contrary, they are all firmly in their shoes.
I had a camping season place in Doesburg for 10 years where mainly Germans
to stand. At a party night or something like that, the German women are all dressed up, while the Dutch come in their jogging suits.
I see the same in Thailand, around the house it can be a mess, but the Thai appreciate neat clothes and grooming, I don't think I need to explain that to you.
At least I've never seen those girls and boys in their school uniforms with a wrinkled blouse.
@ Anton, That you take a Lithuanian woman's comment so seriously, at least I don't! This has been proven in practice.
Yes,………………..you may be quite right about that.
Well you have to love that type of child lady and they can hit the table with their fists even if they don't get their way, they are not enjoyable
@ She? Who is she? 35 million Thai women? They all do the same trick?
Hi Piet, it's not all roses and moonshine that glitters, I've been married for 12 years now to a Thai from the Isaan and we also have its ups and downs, but looking back over all those years I would do it again in a heartbeat and I strongly recommend it but indeed as described here do not go for a very young female because then you are asking for problems and the older ones are not as easy as it seems because they stick to the old culture but once you on your side then you also have something to be proud of, I will be going back to my wife and kids soon and I would like to show you around a bit if you have the opportunity to go there but you should not see it as some kind of store where you can grab something because if you want it, you can find it very easily in certain places and whether you come from Dronten or R-dam or A-dam, they jump by themselves at you but then the misery jumps right along with it the best I think what you know to do is to go with someone who has experience and then of Thailand and not of the bars and if you don't have that then indeed a complete tour of at least 3 weeks and your light is shining there, but if your intentions are indeed serious, I am quite prepared to take you in tow, although I first have to know you better myself, greetings and good luck Piet
Ben Korat
Hello Pete
Just call me and I want to guide you and take you around Thailand, we are of the same year but I have been in Thailand for 30 years, I have been everywhere, and I am very sure of the ins and outs, in other words a lot experience. let me hear from you… if you want, you don't have to go alone, greetings Drees…..
hello pete
first even go to thailand a few times
make your own experiences.
you have good and bad
but you have them all over the world
good luck with your search hope you find the right one
I'm not the best writer but still want to share some experiences.
First of all, you should definitely not buy a wife, this means that they all think that you have a donkey and then a common mistake is trying to achieve that with the result that your money disappears very quickly. As far as the language is concerned, English is certainly not a certainty there I don't know a single woman in my area who speaks good English, not even the office worker in my circle of friends. These are also a bit older and have studied? As a result, they feel better about themselves than my wife (she was only a barmaid) and they are certainly to jump for a falang as I regularly go to a restaurant where my friend's wife maintains contact with colleagues as she is retired and believe me they want a falang one by one. I am only talking about my friends who are married to a civil servant, they live together as friends. On the other hand, I met my wife in the bar, she had not been there long, with the result that she does not speak a word of English. I immediately started learning the Thai language, with the result that we communicate less have disturbances and can also communicate with the family BV. times a party where you are usually alone as a falang.
Marie regarding the Thai woman who doesn't hit the table but does hit your face, don't underestimate them.
My wife is 29 years younger than me and we have a great relationship that my friends can dream of, so older ladies is definitely not a guarantee. We have been together for nine years now and have swam through rough waters OA, money, family EA. end of the relationship, but love conquered all the problems but it was a long road.
[Marie regarding the Thai woman who doesn't hit the table but does hit your face, don't underestimate her.]
Just as there are Dutch women who slap their husbands on their faces, there will also be Thai women.
But whether they are also spun from the right yarn, that is two. But every pot has a lid.
I have been to many countries, but unfortunately the Dutch woman does not excel in sophistication. I have also seen women in Thailand who, with a smile and some gestures, get more done than the average Dutch, if she wants something that hubby doesn't really feel like.
This has nothing to do with being spun from the right yarn, but with their culture and temperament. This is not only valid for Thai women, but also for Thai men.
It has nothing to do with their culture.
And how you deal with your temperament, you learn, among other things, in your upbringing.
But just like in NL, people from a certain lower class often have somewhat looser hands, because they are bad at conflict management.
Hello Piet,
I agree with what most have said here. There is a big difference in culture and way of life. I am also married to a Thai, but I first spent a long time with her in Thailand and also with the family. This way you get a good insight into the differences between the cultures and the way of thinking.
If you have any questions please email us, maybe we can provide some more information.
marcel,
Dronten
hello pete.
how about a visit to the thai temple in waalwijk !!!
you can enter there freely and there are always thai people present, who would like to give you something,
can tell more about thailand and the culture and get in touch with thai ladies,
the temple is in the loeffstraat waalwijk east !!
good luck and keep us posted grt marcel
@Marcel,
The first solution which is the egg of columbus.
To the Thai woman through the temple in Waalwijk. No cost of getting to the Netherlands, after all, she is already here and there are plenty of nice ones walking around who are already looking. No hassle with the IND, hassle with integration.
And it might even have a chance of success.
Yes …….and how do you think some of those 'nice ones' make a living? Do you ever visit the NL casinos? So these ladies must have earned this first. So look, watch your caps here too.
Hello Thailandgoer,
Perhaps the "Egg of Columbus". But don't forget that they all have a problem backpack with them, and they usually know the tricks of the trade here. Many are already quite Westernized, and so on. I have no experience with this myself, it's just my opinion.
Good luck to those who don't mind. But, a warned man counts for two.
Regards,
Ben
Yes,……………..but the problem is, some of us can't count to two.
Hi Pelt,
Maybe nice to report: They are my direct neighbors, I live right next to them. When I sit outside in the summer and there's a party, I feel like I'm in Thailand. Just the feeling, being in Thailand is really preferable for me. They are very nice hospitable people, and you are always welcome. I don't know if they are helpful in looking for a Thai relationship. They do provide shelter and help to Thai women who have run into problems here. There are usually Thai ladies and gentlemen present who speak nice Dutch. There is also a monk who speaks Dutch, I am not sure if he is still there. I don't get there every day either. I couldn't wish for better neighbours, it doesn't bother me at all. Do you actually like such a Thai temple as a neighbor, not everyone has. For those who also enjoy living next to a Thai temple, I have a tip: My house is for sale, a lot of land is added, I want to go to the real Thailand.
Greetings,
Ben
Mmmmm… doesn't seem like the purpose of a temple. In addition… the (younger) Asian women I know who live in the West complain without exception about being approached uninvited and especially inappropriately by older men who think they are easy to score. 'Definitely just got back from Thailand'. Don't know if this is a great idea. If it is already difficult to start a relationship with a Dutch woman, why would it work with a Thai woman? Older men who hang out at Thai temples without having any affinity with culture or Buddhism… get a very strange feeling.
Robert, let me tell you something. I was single again [ 2010 ] I had a date somewhere with a Thai, but as always I was too early, Sitting at the bar, a Thai lady comes in, sits down next to me, we get into conversation, she says where are you from. [English] I say from the Netherlands, she says where, I say Rotterdam, she says in flat Rotterdam, where I thought I was knocking off my crutch. I say North she says I too, Turns out we lived less than 1 minute from each other. I was relieved when my girlfriend came in. Because a Thai from the Netherlands, well, he knows the tricks of the trade.
There is talk of whether it is true about the thai people .everyone take a look in a mirror shameless Kick
Hello Anton,
I don't even know how they get it. I don't go to casinos. But I regularly see Thai ladies with a Porsche Cayenne at the Thai temple in Waalwijk.
Such a thing quickly costs Euro 85.000. Maybe found a rich Farang? Doesn't concern me any more. It must also be said that most Thai ladies drive a normal average car, also far below average. I think what I said now are exceptions, but you have them everywhere.
Regards,
Ben
Many Thai women who live in NL and do not have farang, so live here solo, are prostitutes or are involved in one way or another. I regularly visit the HCs in NL and, for example, especially in Rotterdam, but also in various other HCs a hard core of Thai women come every day and these are all prostitutes. This is not a generalization, but a hard fact.
Just an addition to the above. I have no problem with this at all. Every woman has to decide for herself how she wants to live life. I only reported this because someone thought it was a good idea to enter into a relationship with a Thai woman who already lived in NL.
why does it always have to be a thai, just as if there is only one country in asia. For most of those ladies we all fall for beauty and sweetness, but 95% can't even communicate normally with each other. speaking Tinglian without understanding each other, then that hassle with temple and king, never mind. Most of us are Catholic, why not even travel around the Philippines, they usually speak perfect English, know what work is and don't spend their lives in front of the TV and gambling, of course you shouldn't go looking for them in Angeles
Greetings
I totally agree. Filipino women are generally much more pleasant to deal with than Thai women. It is therefore not inconceivable that I will settle there instead of Thailand.
You have a point here Anton! I also hear more and more that people are going to visit Angeles, for example. @ Patrick, Angeles is just great, but the country certainly has more to offer. It's just nice for a few days if you want to escape Thailand.
Well I believe it's going in the wrong direction again, does anyone remember where it all started? If not, just go to the beginning and read the question from ( piet ) from ( Dronten ) because now everyone is more concerned with themselves than with a simple question that has far-reaching consequences for that person.
Greetings Ben
PS; a woman is a woman whether she comes from europe or from any other part of the world so always show respect first at least that was my upbringing and if it turns out that she doesn't deserve that respect you just walk the other way.
That's how it is.
My experience is that if you treat a Thai woman with respect, you will get it back through her attitude and behavior towards you. Even women from the 'environment' see this and behave differently if they are treated with respect.
As far as settling is concerned, I would recommend that you first make a tour in the Philippines. In general, the costs for accommodation and food are a lot more expensive, compared to quality / price you get a lot less and the choice of food is more limited and also what greasy food. In the Philippines I recommend Negros, Panay, Bohol, if you go to the Philippine Pattaya (Angeles City) you ask for trouble, almost a copy of Pattaya and it is now living in Thailand with a Thai or in the Philippines with a filipina, usually there is bullshit with the family that smells money and the gossiping among the women about how much does he pay and what do you get, etc …….. the best thing is to live in Thailand with a filipina, she then depends almost entirely on you wonder, no family that constantly knocks for all kinds of help (read money) and not that nagging with friends. And if your choice is to find a woman to live in the Netherlands, I would choose a filipina, they fit much better, also not that whining about i miss thai food, miss my girlfriends and what do i remember, those women also go to work for a living, and not like so many thai people who are always looking for big money in one way or another. exceptions and I have had so many friends who said mine is not like that, as far as I know almost all divorced. A thai who is NOT looking for money (who come from a good family) does not need us, they are looking for a vnet in their circle of their age. But if you still want to look for that exception, good luck.
What is beautiful? What the media makes of it is beautiful. It is true that in Thailand more slimmer ladies walk around and also dress appetizingly. Generally brown with black long hairs. Is this beautiful and sexy? In some African countries, fat and super fat is what really appeals to men. The Dutch ladies are tall, white and often blonde. Is this sexy then?
I think the problem is between the ears. It's just what you like and you can always argue about taste.
I myself have always been in favor of blond, slim, brown eyes and a strong character. Because I just wanted to live under the palm trees, this automatically means that there will most likely be a brown lady by my side.
In the Netherlands you look for someone from the same “class”, sometimes even unconsciously.
In Thailand you also have people, as well as in NL, who talk flatly in a certain way, and use words that are wrong in my opinion, etc.
People I would ignore in NL.
However, I don't understand Thai, so I don't get away easily with these people in Th.
And behold, the first problem.
Furthermore, it is difficult to get in touch with a Thai to start a relationship. The barmaids are an exception.
I also agree with @patrick. Most Pinoy speak decent to excellent English, so that's one less (language) barrier.
@Hansy – correction, from what I see around me sometimes it is very difficult to enter into a (non-business!) relationship with a Thai barmaid. That small but not insignificant nuance that is conveniently ignored by so many farangs ensures that many of them go on the ship - or off the Pattaya balcony.
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