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Home » Reader question » What if your kids don't want anything to do with Thailand?
What if your kids don't want anything to do with Thailand?
My Dutch daughter from a previous relationship has no interest at all in my life in Thailand. She doesn't come to visit, shows little, let's just say no interest and calls it 'a phase'. That really hurts. I have already suggested a holiday at my expense to her to come to Thailand for 3 weeks, but she doesn't want to know anything about it.
How do you deal with the distance between you and your children in the Netherlands, especially if you are happy in your new life?
I find it difficult and it makes me sad.
Regards,
Hans
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Show her nice videos/pictures of Thailand of the nature, culture and how the people are a colleague wanted too but his wife didn't until she saw pictures of a friend and now she wants to show her khao yai or something
My children are the same.
I keep in regular contact with my son and grandchildren via Line. My daughter has broken off all contact with me.
Holland is not for me and Thailand is not for them. Life goes on and enjoy every day here.
Dear Hans, a question like this cannot be answered with so little information. You want an answer to a question because of your circumstances, but you do not give us a glimpse into your personal situation. That makes it complicated.
What also strikes me is that you asked the question to yourself. You could also have formulated: "My daughter is having a hard time with my emigration to Thailand, she is angry/sad, and I don't know how to deal with that?" You attribute the cause of your pain to your daughter. But do you realize that you left, and not her! How does your daughter actually deal with your departure and emigration definitively from the Netherlands? And therefore also from her life? Do you ask yourself that question? She reacts very emotionally to your departure, and that cannot be dismissed with just a holiday.
It is quite different if your daughter is still in puberty, or already an adult woman. Is she a mother herself? Does she have brothers or sisters who deal with your departure from the Netherlands in the same or different ways? Are you divorced, retired, living together, remarried, with a much younger partner, m/f? Do you pay attention to your grandchildren, is it for them that she does not want to lose you in the Netherlands, does she feel abandoned, have you involved her (and any other children) in your emigration preparations, has she had a say in the whole thing, what is her mother, your ex,'s position in this? Are you a widower? Is that why she is having a hard time now that both parents are gone from her life? Does she know that it is painful to you that she is distant from you? Have you ever been back to the Netherlands to talk it over with her? Why does she have to come to you and not you to her?
After a long marriage I divorced my husband (2003), and have not been living with a new NL partner (f) in Thailand for very long. That has been a long process, in which I have fully involved my 3 children. Then it is all easier to accept, both my new living situation and my departure. In the meantime they are of course adults themselves, have partners and children of their own, their own lives, and we see each other again and again. The good understanding with them has always remained. If you want to maintain good relationships, you have to invest in them. Realize that by leaving NL, you are distancing yourself. If you cannot handle this, shorten it.
I agree with Daisy. The information is rather limited. I hope that Hans will still be able to see his daughter when he is on holiday in the Netherlands. Why the daughter has this reaction remains a guess: is Thailand in his view a country that simply does not appeal to her or that she has an outright aversion to? Is that based on her gut feeling or on more or less correct information? Or is it not Thailand but that she seriously reproaches her father as a person? And would she have reacted like that if Hans had left for the Czech Republic or Spain?
Much more than keeping the door open, keeping in touch with other family and friends who do want that and who can possibly inform the daughter about how things are going in Thailand, or at least pass on very important information. If talking doesn't work, then perhaps a letter or some other form of communication. If all the shutters are closed, then unfortunately there is little else that can be done except clearly keeping the door open yourself in case the daughter wants to restore contact in the long term. I can't think of anything else.
As Ronny says, you can't force her to accept your decision. So give her space, but keep the door open.
Good luck Hans.
Dear Daisy,
Very good story from you.
There are indeed so many elements that could play a role.
There is no easy answer to that.
Reading your personal story, I think you are an empathetic person.
Thank you for your vision and glad you found your happiness.
Greetings Mike
Just as your daughter should respect your choice to start a new life in Thailand, it seems to me that you should also respect that she wants nothing to do with Thailand. Maybe it has to do with prejudice because she calls it a 'phase', that can be…
But nothing stops you from traveling to the Netherlands and visiting her there.
Dear Hans,
Indeed, that is a very difficult emotional matter.
I lost my 2 sons and still don't know why.
And no, you can't get that with "a good conversation"
What you say, living with it can be awful, but you have to move on.
There are times when you feel more affected, you grieve and you still have to keep going for yourself.
It could also be the other way around, then you don't see your father as much anymore.
In the course of your life you continue with that. Especially if you have a family yourself.
They could be phases, but they could just as easily be permanent.
I have spoken to more people with similar stories or even worse.
It can be a part of your life, it turns out for me too, not expecting it, but there it is.
There is nothing you can do but move on, with only a bad day here and there as reminders.
Writing this made me have a few wet eyes, it brings back those typical feelings
Hans, give it a place, accept and enjoy what you have now.
Good luck boy!
When I read the responses, I see a high social worker content.
Many questions and assumptions that express quaint local NL thinking.
Dear people, Hans did not just leave the Netherlands from one day to the next.
This will have been preceded by a preparation period, during which extensive discussions were held with Dutch family about their future 'emigration'.
The invitation to daughter to visit Hans in Thailand at his expense is fantastic, isn't it?
But daughter doesn't want to. She shuts herself off.
Whether or not Hans visits the Netherlands occasionally will not change that.
End of story.
I wish Hans strength.
“Whether or not Hans visits the Netherlands occasionally will not change that.”
Of course that matters. Still, if it is so important to maintain physical contact.
And now suppose she does accept that invitation. It would be nice if she changes her mind and suddenly likes it there
But maybe her fear is only confirmed that, for whatever reason, Thailand is not for her. Will she then be made to feel guilty again because she wants to leave it at that one time?
Dear Hans,
maybe a bit easy written, but you made the choice to leave for Thailand. I assume the positive fact that you discussed this with your daughter before you left.
Children decide at some point to leave the parental home. Parents and children can have a hard time with that, but there are many kids who are happy to be freed from the parental home and finally have the freedom to shape their own lives.
In general, this is considered a normal phase.
But if, for example, in your case you decide to spread your wings and move towards a new future, you will receive a negative response.
Don't make yourself feel guilty, you've done your best to include her in your Thai life. Try not to put any more energy into it, I think you've done enough of that.
If you decide to turn your back on Thailand in order to please your daughter, you will probably be the one who will be very unhappy.
Enjoy your Thai lifestyle and who knows, maybe your daughter will contact you at some point. I wish you success and happiness