Thailand question: Renew my Thai passport?
Dear readers,
My name is Nathan. I have emigrated to the Netherlands together with my mother since I was six (unfortunately she has now passed away). Until now I am in possession of a Dutch residence permit. To renew this document, I must first renew my Thai passport. This is not possible because I do not have a Thai ID. I have to travel all the way back to my hometown in Thailand to get this document made. Now the municipality of my Thai birthplace asks for documents showing where I live in the Netherlands and at which educational institution I am following a course.
My question to you is where I can have these documents translated into Thai and where I can have the documents legalized. I can't get any further through Google, so I hope to find an answer to my question this way.
Finally, I look forward to your responses.
Regards,
Nathan
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There are many sworn translators in Thailand. To get an impression, just google it. Then make contact via the internet and ask for rates.
From the Netherlands I find it quite cumbersome. Through https://zoekeentolkvertaler.bureauwbtv.nl/ you can find an interpreter and contact us directly. Quite old-fashioned and not accessible. So I didn't want to use it. My girlfriend had her documents translated on the spot (via a desk) in Thailand. They also arranged for the documents to be sent to Bangkok for legalization.
Hi Nathan,
This seems to me to be a question for the Thai consulate in The Hague. After all, you are a Thai national and it is their job abroad to provide all queries and assistance to their nationals abroad. If your municipality wants these kinds of documents. Then make an appointment with the Thai consulate and ask where you can translate and legalize these documents. They must be able to indicate where this is possible. It is therefore smart to have this information confirmed by email again so that if your home municipality is difficult about this, you can refer them back to the Thai embassy. Good luck 😉
Hi, The registration where you live could simply be provided at the town hall of the place where you now live. An extract from the population register. You pay something in fees, but that's not much. Please contact the civil affairs department in your municipality for this
Please contact Siam Legal, a law firm. They can undoubtedly help you further. Good luck!
Dear Natha, what a hassle for a passport.
You don't state your age at the moment so hope that can be resolved for you.
Your question itself is quite possible at a translation agency like this one https://bit.ly/3jNpwLq which can be found on Google.
Succes
Dear Natha, Last December my partner applied for a new Thai passport at the Thai Embassy in The Hague. Although it is stated on the site that you must show your Thai ID card from the age of 20, this has not been requested at all. I don't know the reason why it wasn't asked, maybe the system says that an ID card was indeed issued, or they forgot to ask (seems not obvious to me), or they care actually not whether or not you own an ID card. Did you only obtain your information online that you cannot apply for a new passport without an ID card or have you also been in contact with the Thai embassy about this? If you have not yet had contact with the embassy, I would consider doing so first before you start complicated, time-consuming and expensive procedures. Or perhaps just take the gamble without prior information and schedule an appointment online to apply for your new passport. Can you at most cost the trip to The Hague and hopefully you can just submit the application. (€50,= to be paid by debit card, you can then pick up the passport yourself or have it sent by registered mail, for which you must bring a self-addressed and sufficiently stamped, 10,25?, envelope).
Incidentally, you do not state your age, because the embassy site does not mention showing an ID card for people up to the age of 20, but it does mention the Thai birth certificate. Now it seems plausible to me that the birth certificate is only required when you apply for a Thai passport for the first time, but of course I cannot be sure.
In addition, the Thai embassy manufactures and issues ID cards itself. Whether you should already be in possession of an ID card to get a new one, I wouldn't know either. Wouldn't ask for that myself now so as not to wake sleeping dogs.
The most important thing is of course to get your new passport on time because of the extension of your residence document.
An ID card can then possibly be applied for afterwards, probably also at the Thai embassy.
Success!
In the paragraph that people under the age of 20 do not mention showing a Thai ID card, but the Thai birth certificate, "when applying for a Thai passport" has been mistakenly omitted.
Also think that the whole procedure in Thailand is not necessary. There is already a Thai passport which needs to be renewed and the applicable thing is an original Thai birth certificate. With this you could obtain a new passport at the embassy, possibly if you are still a minor add your mother's death certificate, English translation if it is not in Thai. The embassy is there for these kinds of matters for Thais abroad.
Dear Natha, you actually provide too little information to be able to formulate a good answer that will help you. For example, you do not state how old you are, and, for example, not to which documents the issue is involved and not to which place in Thailand it concerns.
Anyway: for the sake of convenience, I will assume that you have already obtained an extract from the Personal Records Database (BRP) at your municipality in the Netherlands. I also assume that you have proof of registration and training from your training institute. Have the BRP extract and registration in the Netherlands converted into English by a sworn translation agency. Also have both documents legalized by that agency. Many can be found via Google, which usually work online.
If you still have to travel to Thailand to apply for your Thai ID, do the same with both legalized documents at a Thai translation agency, but now from English to Thai. These agencies also provide the necessary legalizations. Then you will apply for a Thai ID in your place of birth. To make the process easier you could bring a Thai uncle/aunt/grandparent/nephew/niece.
Yet it is a strange story: at the Thai Embassy, Thai people can simply apply for a new Thai ID, for example after loss or damage. You are talking about renewing your Thai passport, so you have it. Together with your Thai birth certificate, that should be enough. By the way: keep your Thai birth certificate carefully. Make some copies if necessary. A Thai ID and a Thai birth certificate are indispensable in the Thai bureaucracy.
You also talk about extending your residence permit in the Netherlands. You came to the Netherlands when you were 6. You didn't mention your age but I'm guessing older than 11 years. After 5 years of legal residence in the Netherlands, you may apply for naturalisation. If you will soon be in possession of both Thai ID and passport, you could consider such an application. A Thai may have both nationalities.
Could be completely wrong, but I think this is the question.
Now the municipality of my Thai place of birth is asking for documents showing where I live in the Netherlands and at which educational institution I am following a course.
My question to you is where I can have these documents translated into Thai and where I can have the documents legalized.
So she is looking for someone in the Netherlands, urgent translation agency for example in my link.
Directly from Dutch into Thai.
Wut's 'solution' is worth a try by the way, no you have yes you can get it
Hi William. You simplified it. You are ignoring why she has to do this. All of the above solutions try to avoid having to travel all the way to Thailand for something as simple as renewing a passport. So before you assume, as you do, the need to travel back to your hometown for a Thai ID card that you apparently need again to renew your passport, the real question is: Is that trip and all that administration really worth it? really need? The Thai Embassy is and will remain the organization where it can best discuss what is needed. WUT's solution and also Grumpy are the best in my opinion.
I answer her question Wim.
The fact that sworn translation can be used worldwide here is possible with all the stamps on it by an agency.
WUT and Grumpy give a broader possibility, correct.
No do you have Yes you can have.
Thai embassy determines the requirements to obtain a new passport, if you do not meet them end of story.
They don't care when and where you need that passport.
Your earlier comment that it is the task of the embassy to provide all questions and help to compatriots can be very wrong.
In an earlier topic here, see link, some options are also discussed, just do everything there [Thailand] if the old passport is still valid for a short time.
Anyway, that information is limited by Natha.
https://www.thailandblog.nl/lezersvraag/thais-paspoort-verlengen/
If you need a translator from Dutch to Thai use https://www.suwannaphoom.nl/nl
Good luck.
Once again,
DO NOT go to Thailand but just go to the Thai embassy in The Hague with your old passport. My son did too. Make an appointment online first.
Succes
Now the municipality of my Thai place of birth is asking for documents showing where I live in the Netherlands and at which educational institution I am following a course.
For applying for a Thai ID card, it is completely irrelevant whether / and / where you follow a course.
There is a good chance that they do not understand it well there at the amphur (town hall).
Greeting.
Josh K..
Checked with some Thai acquaintances and none of them was asked to show their ID card when renewing their Thai passport at the embassy in The Hague. I therefore suspect that the English translation on the website of the embassy with the passage about the ID card only applies to persons who have not previously received a Thai passport. This probably also applies to the passage about showing a birth certificate, if you are still under 20 years old and are applying for a Thai passport for the first time. Natha already has a Thai passport, so it seems very likely to me that, despite the fact that she does not have a Thai ID card, she can apply for a new passport at the embassy.
Incidentally, it surprises me that Natha does not respond and / or provide further information.