Thailand question: Going to Thailand with my daughter, she has a Thai and Dutch passport?
January 22 2023
Dear readers,
The question may have been asked before, but that was some time ago. I live with my daughter in Thailand. I want to go on vacation to Thailand in April. We are staying with my sister. My daughter has a Thai and Dutch passport.
Question 1.
- When booking a ticket, I do not have to provide a passport number, only the name as in the passport, which is the same in both.
- When leaving Thailand I show the Thai passport and she gets an exit card.
- Upon arrival in the Netherlands, I will show the Dutch passport.
- When leaving the Netherlands I show the Dutch passport
- Upon arrival in Thailand, I will show the Thai passport.
- In this case, I do not need to apply for a visa for my daughter. I myself have to request a re-entry before departure.
does this work?
Question 2:
- Which passport do I show when checking in at the airport in Bangkok and which one at Schiphol?
- Or is it the same passport number for the outward and return flight?
- Does the Marechaussee or immigration service check the passport number on the ticket with the passport presented?
- Which passport must be presented at a stopover?
Question 3:
I am traveling with my daughter because her mother passed away. I will bring the translated and legalized death certificate. Should I arrange more to avoid any problems?
Regards,
Jan
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I've done this many times with my daughters. The airlines will ask if you stay in Bangkok, for example, for a Dutch passport as entry and residence. Conversely right. Do you have a birth certificate proving that it is your daughter? Also translated? Be sure to take the death certificate with you. Use the customs passport of the country. Will definitely go well. Have a nice trip
PS. They could make it difficult in NL about compulsory education. You could counter that by having a note drawn up in English at the school in Thailand stating that it is school holiday. This is normal if you are applying for a visa for the Netherlands for a child who does not have a Dutch passport. Every school does that
Greetings Jan
Here too, all kinds of things are simplified if you simply let the Thai family members enter on their Thai passport
You check in with the passport that contains the name with which you purchased the ticket, because when you check in you must prove that you are the ticket holder.
At immigration you use the passport of the country you are entering.
Entry/exit card has been abolished.
When transferring, you may have to show your passport and ticket at a checkpoint, you simply do this with the passport with the name with which you purchased the ticket.
You can also look up questions asked in the past in Thailandblog.
Kind of strange that you live in Thailand and go on holiday to Thailand, and stay with your sister there.
If it is true that you live in Thailand, you probably have a visa/year/extension.
If you then leave Thailand, you must indeed have a re-entry to keep your "best before" date.
Regards,
jos k.
Hello readers,
After the last comment I see that I made a mistake. I live in Thailand and we are going on vacation to the Netherlands in the month of April.
I now want to book a ticket with Saudi Airways via cheaptickets.nl. This company immediately asks for the passport when booking. I think to give the Dutch passport number for my daughter. Airline also checks visas for a country, right? That would already raise questions from Bangkok if the Thai passport is given up.
Cheaptickets is an intermediary.
In the event of problems, hardly available for refunds, certainly not at all.
It is better to first view prices on skyscanner, make a choice and go directly to the website of the airline and then purchase that ticket online.
Regards,
jos k.
Dear Jan, You write that when you leave the Netherlands you only declare the Dutch passport.
Do you not get questions from the airline after a valid visa for Thailand if you want to stay longer than the normal visa extension?
Question 2, I think you will get the same problem if you only indicate the Thai passport at check-in in BKK, because every airline then asks for a Schengen visa or another authorization for a stay in the Netherlands.
If I had to answer the first 2 questions, you would have to travel in the Netherlands with the Thai passport, with which she can also enter Thailand without any problems, and later to come back to the Netherlands, leave in BKK and check in with a Dutch passport.
Both on her Thai and on her Dutch passport, her name is written exactly as it appears on her plane ticket.
In addition to my response above, could you just show the passport of the country you are entering after your flight.
So in Thailand the Thai, and in the Netherlands the Dutch passport.
At customs only show the passport of the country where you are at the airline show both if they ask for it. So I have never had a problem for many years. I accidentally threw down the passports of both countries in Thailand at customs. Looked a bit strange but didn't ask anything else.
They must have looked strange, because customs do not check passports, that is what immigration does. And with us the Marechaussee.
1. In Thailand, show your Thai passport to immigration (border guard) on departure and return. And on arrival in the Netherlands and departure you show the KMar (border guard) the Dutch passport. The airline is happy with one or the other so which one you use doesn't really matter. Make sure that the first name(s) and last name in passport and airline ticket are the same. If you have any questions, you can always show the other passport.
2. Passport number will not really interest anyone unless they think something is wrong and they start digging/puzzling.
During a stopover, you normally never cross the border, but you stay on the air-side of the airport, so you will not encounter a border guard. If you do have to cross the border, I would show the "best" passport (read: the passport that does not require a visa to cross the border, etc.) and if both are equally favorable, then I would show the passport of the country where to show you are on your way but the other or both would work just as well.
3, The death certificates in a language that the border guard can read will suffice, if one asks for it at all... possibly because due to international agreements to combat child abduction, the border guard can inform the accompanying parent(s) when traveling with children or to show guardian(s) that you are related (parental control, guardianship). Investigating every minor to see if there is a potential case of kidnapping is impossible, so in practice it will be limited to some parents who travel with only 1 parent/guardian to demonstrate that the other parent has given permission. Unfortunately, the mother has passed away, such a deed should make it clear to the civil servant that everything is in order and that there is no question of kidnapping.
In summary: book the tickets on one or the other passport, present it at check-in and present the second passport if necessary. Use the Thai passport on departure and arrival in Thailand, and the Dutch one on departure and arrival in the Netherlands. You can always show a second passport if you have any questions. When in doubt: use the “best” passport (most rights) and show it. You can always show the other.