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Home » Reader question » Question about investing in real estate in Thailand with Dutch tax liability?
Dear readers,
I have a question about investing in real estate in Thailand if you still live in the Netherlands with a tax liability in the Netherlands.
I read different stories that if you pay taxes in Thailand, you don't have to do that in the Netherlands (value apartment/house and rental income). I also come across other stories that the value of your real estate in box 3 is taxed in the Netherlands.
Maybe someone can tell me more about this? It's about someone who lives in the Netherlands and invests in Thailand.
Regards,
Marcel
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Marcel, I assume you are Dutch. As a foreigner in Thailand, you cannot invest in real estate including subsoil. Direct ownership of land is prohibited for you. You can do this via front men, but this is checked, among other things to prevent money laundering.
You can prevent this by casting the investment in a business activity; but there are also pitfalls and traps in this. Moreover, you will quickly end up in the profit sphere. In addition, Thailand has professions that are not open to foreigners.
The story you mention, 'that if you pay taxes in Thailand, you don't have to do that in the Netherlands' comes from the Fabeltjeskrant; there is a treaty between the two countries and that determines when and where something is taxed. That treaty is from 1975 and will be renewed in a few years and before you invest in Thailand I would wait for that treaty first.
The current treaty applies the situs principle as standard with respect to immovable property. All benefits and expenses as well as capital gains accrue to the country where the immovable property is located. But see my first paragraph on the concept of 'immovable'.
If you do want to do this, my advice is to first wait for the new treaty to see how it will be taxed in both countries, then look for a possibility to own real estate in Thailand, and finally seek sound tax advice in both countries from an international firm that has offices in both countries. This blog published a list of tax advisors based in Thailand this week and there is bound to be one among them that also has an office in the Netherlands.
The existing treaty can be found here: wetten.nl (space) thailand.
In the meantime I have become a bit wiser and understand that you have to declare your real estate (condo/apartment) anywhere in the world to the tax authorities in the Netherlands, it then ends up in box 3 here... thanks for the information.
Yes, specify in Box 3, but according to the current treaty with Thailand it is exempt in the Netherlands. So you do not pay box 3 tax in the Netherlands on the value of the real estate in Thailand.
Ferry, that's what I thought until recently, but it seems that this is not the case. A second home (or more) anywhere in the world is taxed in the Netherlands in box 2, so 3% of the value.
As far as I know, a company is not taxed in box 3
Marcel, was my response not clear enough? See this link to abn/amro.
https://financialfocus.abnamro.nl/wonen/belastingaangifte-een-tweede-huis-in-het-buitenland/
But be careful whether in this case in Thailand it concerns REAL ESTATE!
[26-3 14:42] Hennie: That could indeed be possible. Ultimately, you should present this to a specialist.
[26-3 16:18] Marcel: Marcel Roose I read about that
1. In Thailand tax on rental income
If you are a foreigner who owns an apartment (condo) or house in Thailand and you rent it out, you will have to pay tax on the rental income in Thailand.
This is personal income tax, with progressive rates from 5% to 35%.
You may deduct certain costs (such as maintenance costs, often a flat rate of 30%).
You pay this tax annually to the Thai tax authorities.
2. In the Netherlands: Box 3 tax
In the Netherlands, foreign assets are included in your tax return, even if you pay tax on them abroad.
Your foreign real estate falls into Box 3: income from savings and investments.
The value of the property (usually the WOZ-like value or purchase price, converted to euros as of January 1 of that year) counts towards your assets.
You will then pay tax on your assets above the exemption (€57.000 per person in 2025) according to the box 3 system.
3. Prevention of double taxation
There is a tax treaty between the Netherlands and Thailand, but… that treaty does not concern Box 3, because that is a wealth tax and not an income tax.
What does that mean in concrete terms?
The rental income you receive: you only pay tax on that in Thailand.
However, you must declare the ownership of the property itself in Box 3. So you do pay Dutch tax on the value of the house or apartment, even if it is located in Thailand.
Summarized:
Yes, you pay tax on your rental income in Thailand.
But in the Netherlands you pay tax on the ownership of the real estate itself (Box 3).
So you do not pay double on the rental income, but you do pay on the property in the Netherlands.
Eric, this is what I got.
Marcel, this link. And otherwise submit it in writing to the tax authorities where you file your tax return. https://shorturl.at/M0W4i
Hi Marcel,
Investing in LeaseHold for 30 years (lump-sum payment) is also an option.
Not owned so no box 3, but here in Thailand
registered in the land office that you can dispose of it for 30 years.
Subletting is possible, selling your lease agreement is also possible.
I have been living here in Chiang Mai for 18 years.
I have a detailed plan here to build 10 to 12 apartments on my wife's land for a total of approx. 125.000 euros. Rental income in 30 years at least 400.000 euros. I also have a Co.,Ltd. here.
If you want more information, send me an email: Herman [email protected]
Kind regards, Herman
Dear Herman,
I would quickly implement that plan, because a quick calculation shows an 11% return.
No Thai bank gives this.
In the Netherlands/Belgium you could buy 3 garages, and with a constant rental of €200 per month, your return is 5,75%.
Hi Peer, I know it's a good plan.
My problem is that I don't have the money to invest.
I am too old for a bank loan (73)
I do have collateral, 2 properties together 15 million THB
The plan is for income guarantee for my Thai wife in case I die.
Kind regards Herman
Hi Peer, I know it's a good plan.
My problem is that I don't have the money to invest.
I am too old for a bank loan (73)
I do have collateral, 2 properties together 15 million THB
The plan is for income guarantee for my Thai wife in case I die.
Kind regards Herman
The yield is only 7,3%. Still good, but 1/3 less than your 11%. Do the math: 400 minus 125 divided by 30, and divide the result by 1% of 125K gives 7,33%.
PEER, take off a percent for NL. VAT is due on the rent of garage boxes at the general rate.
Peer, but your garage box(es) also come in box 3, but I think you know that.
I have a garage myself and you pay 6.12% on the WOZ value, of which another 36%
Now that the Thai PIT story is coming to an end, I would like to say a few things about these kinds of issues, partly as suggested by my stepdaughter, who works at a Thai accountancy office and is very familiar with Thai laws and regulations, as she has been consulted regularly in recent weeks.
1- If a Thai spouse owns land, registered at the land office with valid chanotes, she can freely and happily build as the good old days go by. If it concerns construction on a project basis, for example 10 to 12 apartments to generate rent, she must submit a building plan to the officials at the land office. Neither during the construction, nor during the planning, and certainly not during the consultation with officials, the presence of a farang-spouse is desirable. For the simple reason that a farang is not allowed to own Thai land according to the Thai Land Act. That a farang finances the plans of his spouse is between him and the spouse.
2- If a farang gives money to his wife to purchase land, he is expected to sign a waiver of both money and property, thereby renouncing any say in the matter.
3- A lease contract lasts for 30 years. After such a term, a new contract can be negotiated. The owner/lessor is not obliged to do anything. Any verbal or written commitments are null and void. At the end of the lease, the land and buildings revert to the lessor/owner. No compensation needs to be paid, unless contractually agreed. An existing lease has therefore already run for several years. The remainder can never be 30 years.
4- Anything and everything may be done with the land and buildings, as long as it is in accordance with the contract and land office registration.
5- Amendments added to the Thai Land Code Act as well as the Foreign Business Act in 2006 restrict the employment of farang through Ltd. Companies. In any case, farangs are not allowed to work without work permits and B-visas, (Alien Employment Act BE 2551/2008) and are by definition not allowed to trade with Thai land.
6- If €30K rental income has to be generated in 400 years for 12 apartments, we are talking about ฿3,5 per month, or so. If a farang leases land from his legal spouse to milk houses, he is punishable. He generates income from illegal activities. Not even through a Ltd. Because the intention: to make Thai land a revenue model, remains. And that is not allowed!
7- Is there a way out? Yes, there is, but it starts with waving ฿20M. The “Hire of Immovable Property for Commerce and Industry Act BE 2542/1999” was designed for that, but in the context of Marcel’s comment, and Herman’s comment, further elaboration would lead too far.
Ad 6: ฿3,5 per month should of course be ฿3,5K. Editors: please correct. Thanks!
Marcel Roose I read about it
1. In Thailand tax on rental income
If you are a foreigner who owns an apartment (condo) or house in Thailand and you rent it out, you will have to pay tax on the rental income in Thailand.
This is personal income tax, with progressive rates from 5% to 35%.
You may deduct certain costs (such as maintenance costs, often a flat rate of 30%).
You pay this tax annually to the Thai tax authorities.
2. In the Netherlands: Box 3 tax
In the Netherlands, foreign assets are included in your tax return, even if you pay tax on them abroad.
Your foreign real estate falls into Box 3: income from savings and investments.
The value of the property (usually the WOZ-like value or purchase price, converted to euros as of January 1 of that year) counts towards your assets.
You will then pay tax on your assets above the exemption (€57.000 per person in 2025) according to the box 3 system.
3. Prevention of double taxation
There is a tax treaty between the Netherlands and Thailand, but… that treaty does not concern Box 3, because that is a wealth tax and not an income tax.
What does that mean in concrete terms?
The rental income you receive: you only pay tax on that in Thailand.
However, you must declare the ownership of the property itself in Box 3. So you do pay Dutch tax on the value of the house or apartment, even if it is located in Thailand.
Summarized:
Yes, you pay tax on your rental income in Thailand.
But in the Netherlands you pay tax on the ownership of the real estate itself (Box 3).
So you do not pay double on the rental income, but you do pay on the property in the Netherlands.