Preventing pests in your home at new house Isaan

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13 August 2018

Dear readers,

How can I best prevent pests in my house in a new house to be built in Isaan? We will soon be building a house in the Isaan. I'm afraid of snakes and spiders and other scum. I want to have a large wall built around the house about a meter away from the house and then 1,50 meters high. You often see it in Thailand. Not pretty, but effective I think. My girlfriend just wants to raise the house. Say the floor of the entrance is half a meter higher than the ground, but that doesn't seem enough to me. A house on stilts is not going to work for him.

Who can tell me more?

Thanks.

Regards,

Robbert

18 responses to “Preventing vermin in your home at new house Isaan to be built”

  1. RonnyLatPhrao says up

    Well, that is their biotope and a wall will certainly not stop them.
    If you're so scared of that, you shouldn't live there and look for a different environment

  2. Adam says up

    Provide a room in the house with air conditioning, never open a window and never leave that room.
    Better, however, would be: try to overcome your fear, starting with changing your view of what 'vermin' or 'scum' is, because that is mainly subjective. If that doesn't work I'm afraid you won't like living in the Isaan very much….

  3. Henk says up

    Robbert: When we had our house built 10 years ago, we had an entire PVC pipe laid in the "crawl space" of 20 mm and approximately 30 cm apart. Holes of a few millimeters were drilled in the PVC. The pipe is through the wall to which we can then connect a hose.
    Then I take a large barrel and mix poison against vermin in it, I spray this by means of a pump under the house through the PVC pipe. It will probably not be according to the rules, but I am convinced that it works. The vermin has then at least no more nice hiding place under your house, By the way :: a wall 1 meter away from your house?? Do you no longer have space or do you have other intentions with it, because I don't think it's really handy so close to the facade of your house. Good luck with the building and make sure you keep an eye on it 24 hours a day to see what they're all doing to be busy .

  4. Geert says up

    Dear Robert
    Your friend is right, our house which is also in the isaan has the entrance about a meter above garden level.
    The house is not on stilts but just has a large crawl space.
    The plot is completely walled with a 2 meter high wall, but that has no effect against snakes and other vermin
    We have 2 dogs that know what to do with snakes.
    Good luck with the construction of your house, I hope you have a little understanding of building, you will need that badly.

  5. Jack S says up

    Do you think that snakes and spiders cannot enter a wall of 150 cm? At least spiders and snakes? Is there a tree close to the house, can a snake enter already, do you have a gate? That beast can get in there too.
    150 cm is very low. The only animals that will bother you less are stray dogs and maybe cows. However, at 150 cm you are most bothered by snoopers… We had such a low wall and could not sit outside for a day without the neighbors eating with their eyes. I now have the wall two meters high… that is enough for us.
    Scorpions, centipedes, spiders, snakes, mice, rats and birds will not be bothered by this.
    Raising the house helps in any case ... and I think also equip the doors and windows with mosquito nets. This way you keep most animals out of the house. We occasionally have a stray mosquito or fly at home. However, geckos still find a place and food in the house…

    But what you can certainly look at is that the interior is properly closed. We often have mice in the space between the roof and the ceiling. When I set a trap there, I saw that a lot of masonry is just open. There are also openings on the side of the roof where those animals can enter. Make sure this is neatly finished, so that no animals can get in there.
    We also had problems with birds making nests under the roof for a while. You can buy special closures for that, which you then attach around the house under the roof. They are black, do not stand out, but close the gaps there.

  6. Hans Pronk says up

    Oh Robbert, it's not that bad. I live in an area with many snakes and other vermin, but in five years I have had one snake in my house and a fairly large spider a few times a year. Nothing else. Well, tjitjaks of course, because you can't keep them out. We have sliding screens on the windows and the door always closes behind us. That snake and those spiders may have gotten in under the door. The tjitjaks know how to avoid the flexible sealing rubber of the sliding screens, but tjitjaks can do no harm.
    That wall won't help much because snakes can slip into your garden under the gate. Or over the wall if there are plants growing against it.
    The floor of our house is about 40 cm above the surrounding land, but of course that doesn't help.
    Some dogs kill snakes, but you'll probably need at least two dogs. Cats sometimes do that too. Those animals are not sufficient because they sometimes sleep.
    Of course you have to make the immediate surroundings of your house unattractive to snakes, so no hiding places and no plants. But that is also no guarantee. But again, it's okay. In five years I have only been stung/bitten by mosquitoes and ants.

  7. carpenter says up

    Snakes and spiders in your garden, no matter how small the garden, don't stop !!!
    By building your house on a crawl space of about 1 meter high you can prevent snakes through the doors, but use a staircase to your door(s) and not a wheelchair ramp. By keeping the house clean on the inside and immediately clearing away crumbs, etc., you prevent many ants from bothering you. A screen for an open window or door prevents most flying insects. Use good slippers to walk in, store any closed shoes in a closed shoe cabinet. Have your toilet drain equipped with an anti-snake construction and place trees at some distance from your house (no hose from the tree on your roof). A dog is an excellent warning device for snakes in your garden.
    Good luck with the construction and try to check the construction every day !!!

  8. Eric says up

    A good and solid solution for under the house is to have a pesticide company make an offer, there are several in Isaan. As Henk has already explained, they neatly install pipes with holes in the crawl spaces, once every six months or year they come to check this and if necessary inject it with poison. These companies offer you contracts for possibly a number of years.
    So if you want to go for vermin under your house by number, this is a good solution.
    A wall is only good for your own privacy, you really can't stop a snake or spider with it.
    And if that wall is close to your house, I would reconsider.
    Good luck with your build and make sure you're there when they start.

  9. Timo says up

    Dear Robbert, raising the ground at least 30 cm above the crown of the street has many advantages. Think of the heavy rainfall at certain times of the year. In any case, the rainwater never seeps in. Make sure that you have a clean tiled floor about 5 cm lower than the floor inside at the outer doors. Clean this floor every day. At the location of the sills of the doors, have a stop for the doors with a correct draft (ant and other vermin) seal. The draft seal, of course, also at the posts and lintel. You will then have few problems with ants! But the condition is that you keep the doors clean inside and outside. I also recommend a screen at the doors and all windows. It goes without saying that the plans are also ajar, the best is a plasterboard ceiling where the seams are finished. But again keep things clean. And a wall around or closed fencing is never wrong either. I have also built a house in the Isaan and have absolutely no problems with vermin.

  10. leon1 says up

    Dear Robert,
    Enough suggestions have been given to form a picture, which is also important, make sure you can deposit food waste far in the back of your garden in half an oil barrel and once a week you set it on fire, is also good against the mosquitoes.
    Don't make a compost heap, then the vermin will parade on it.
    Storing your food properly and odor-free at home is also a must.

    Good luck,
    Lion.

    • Francois Nang Lae says up

      But then of course never complain about the smog again.

  11. leon1 says up

    Dear Robert,
    Enough suggestions have been given to form a picture, which is also important, make sure you can deposit food waste far in the back of your garden in half an oil barrel and once a week you set it on fire, is also good against the mosquitoes.
    Don't make a compost heap, then the vermin will parade on it.
    Storing your food properly and odor free at home is a must.

    Good luck,
    Lion.

  12. janbeute says up

    If you are afraid of vermin, my advice is not to live in Thailand.
    No matter how you build the house and what you do, pests always find a chance to get in.
    Yes you can take precautions to reduce it.
    But you can't eliminate it.
    And what are you afraid of , see that you get rid of that fear .
    Do you live here learn to live with it and deal with it .
    And especially if you live in the Thai countryside like me and many fellow bloggers.

    Jan Beute.

  13. Tom says up

    We raised our ground 1,60 m a few years ago, a few times during the monsoon and you have solid ground on which to build.
    Last year we started building, no crawl space, no vermin or animals that come under your house.
    Close overhangs properly and make sure you make brushes under the doors.
    There will be air conditioning in 2 of the 3 bedrooms and the room
    .The cold air keeps the animals out
    And most importantly, keep it clean in and around the house
    We want a garden, so the wall will be about 10 meters around our house, so our plot will soon be demarcated.
    I hope you find this information useful .
    Oh yes, and build on the ground floor, much easier to keep clean and build a welded hood, you do not have wooden trusses or floorboards, which attract termites and woodworm, so no other animals such as spiders and gekos

  14. rori says up

    Make sure, as mentioned earlier, that there is a crawl or sufficiently high space under the house that you can enter or under yourself to access the drain, water and other pipes that run under the house.
    The idea of ​​making the space lockable so that you can access it with pesticides is also an idea.

    Furthermore, look at "older" houses in the area, especially if you live in a water-rich area and look at what the living floor is of those houses.
    Have done it myself against all advice ever at a house everyone declared me crazy except an old uncle. My motivation was why people used to build all the houses so high.
    I then suggested flooding. It came out. We always have the whole house dry.

    You can hardly stop insects and small flying stuff.
    Ants and especially those very small ones come in places where I sometimes wonder why that is and where do they come from.

    You can also hardly keep the small wall lizards and gekos out. the question is should they be because they eat insects.
    these beasts walk on the ceiling.

    I would, however, ensure that during construction all seams and cracks for windows and doors are sealed with rubber band or profiles, just like in the Netherlands, and of course screens for the windows.

    Roof connection to the house is just as important, make sure there are no gaps and also make sure that no birds can get under the roof or between the roof and the ceiling.

    level the walls with grout before the roof comes on. Place the beams for the ceiling well in the ship's menie (red or gray) and then stretch gauze between the beams on the wall side.

    Good luck and take the other advice with you.

    A wall doesn't stop insects geko.s lizards and snakes. Not even snakes that walk on 2 legs.

  15. Rene Chiangmai says up

    Earlier on this blog the Inquisitor talked about the poison and the possible disastrous consequences.
    And now about spraying poison under your house. That will probably come up again somewhere in your living environment.

    Brrr. Didn't see me.

    • RonnyLatPhrao says up

      I can only agree.
      But they do grow their organic vegetables in their own garden…. Completely safe 🙂

  16. Marco says up

    At the Homepro you can buy bottles with black liquid, which snakes do not like.
    Spray this around your house and garden.


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