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Home » Reader question » How do I obtain a TIN number in my situation?
How do I obtain a TIN number in my situation?
Dear readers,
Today I applied for a TIN number with the Tax Revenue in my district.
I have been living alone in Thailand for ten years, so I am single. I had brought the blue house book, my passport and my driver's license. However, this was not enough to get the number.
At the service they told me that I needed a Thai ID card for the TIN number and possibly a yellow house book. I was then referred to the department that issues these documents.
There I was told that I am not eligible for an ID card and the yellow book unless I come back with the owner of the house (my ex-girlfriend) to sort it out. But she doesn't live in Thailand anymore, but in Europe.
Are there perhaps other possibilities to still get a TIN number? All help is welcome.
Regards,
Sjaak
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Jack,
When I read your message, I see that you have been to the tax department of your Amphur?
I suggest you visit a larger office and try there.
Succes
The fact that you are a Thai tax resident, so you have been living in TH for at least 180 days, should be sufficient to register, issue a TIN, file your return, and if applicable: pay tax. That you are a resident can be proven e.g. with a rental contract and with stamps of extensions and re-entries.
You do not report that you have a rental contract. You do have a blue address book, but for a foreigner that blue house book does not apply. That belongs to the owner, your ex-girlfriend.
That only by showing a Thai pink ID in combination with a 'yellow house book' someone becomes a resident, is once again thought up on the spot. It would have been nice to know in which city/district your story takes place. Can you mention that in a comment?
Indeed, in order to obtain a 'yellow' house book, the presence of the holder of the 'blue' house book, two witnesses, and preferably also the poeyaibaan is required.
See: https://thaicitizenship.com/yellow-tabien-baan/
There are no other ways to obtain a TIN other than through registration at a TRD office.
If you still want to attempt TRD registration after being rejected, then:
1- you could request a yellow address book. Your ex-girlfriend can explain her situation in a letter to the ampheu, agree to a 'yellow' book for you at her address, and not to forget: enclose a rental contract and a copy of her Thai ID dated and signed. Don't forget those 2 witnesses! Afterwards, treat the poeyaibaan and the 2 witnesses to an extensive lunch. Networking, that's what it's called.
You have to act quickly, you still have 20 days.
2- If all of the above takes too long, go to the poeyaibaan, explain the situation, ask him/her to go with you to the TRD to confirm that you live where you live, and have been for about ten years. Also take a Certificate of Residence with you, which can be obtained from Immigration. You will need the poeyaibaan anyway, if you decide as described under 1-. It would be nice if in the meantime your ex-girlfriend has sent a rental contract and a copy of Thai ID by scanning and emailing. If you have everything together early next week, and you are still refused in the company of the poeyaibaan, you will at least have an official with you who is a witness to the incident.
Since his ex lives in Europe he can't count on her. The easiest way: go to immigration with a rental contract and passport plus two passport photos. Ask for a certificate of residence. Costs 300 baht and usually you get it the next day but sometimes a few hours later. Then go to the tax office and take the annual overviews of AOW and pension printed in English. You also need a statement from the Bank for 2024 that can also take a few days... they will calculate and calculate and as in my case I didn't have to pay anything. Then to the cashier there you get your ticket with the amount and then your tin. All in all I was done in 2 hours.
Success.
If you have no income to declare, you do not need a TIN.
Well, that's another nice collection of reactions about; ....How can we Thais make it difficult for you to obtain a simple TIN number? ... Nasty business.
The usual Thai opposition. Nice.
Thais want to collect tax money, don't they?
NL Passport with years of annual Immigration renewals, bank books, a Certificate of Residence from Immigration should be sufficient to get a stupid TIN number, if you wish.
If you simply go to the Ombudsman (in Phuket) in case of rejection/non-acceptance and request to investigate a reasonable TIN application that is rejected, you are bringing the Thais into a bureaucratic process among themselves.
And then it goes on for a year before you hear anything.
Give them a taste of their own bureaucratic medicine. Isn't that great?
TIN number is sometimes needed to keep certain accounts in Belgium. So actually they should always give one to people who deregister in their country of birth