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Home » Reader question » Reader question: Why are airline tickets from Bangkok to the Netherlands much more expensive?
Reader question: Why are airline tickets from Bangkok to the Netherlands much more expensive?
Dear readers,
I have a question about airline tickets. When I want to book a return flight from Amsterdam to Bangkok from April 5 to April 26, I pay € 659 with China Airlines. When my girlfriend books the same ticket but then from Bangkok to Amsterdam and back, she pays almost € 800.
When I want to book the ticket for her in the Netherlands, I pay € 999 due to legal rules. I understand that I have to pay a little more for that. But the differences are very big.
And why should a Thai even pay more for his ticket than a Dutch person? It has been at least 3 years now that the tickets are much more expensive there. Can someone tell me what is the reason for this? Thank you in advance.
Regards,
Robbert
Dear Robbert, as so often, prices are determined by supply and demand. Fewer people fly from Thailand to Europe than the other way around.
The prices of airline tickets are also determined by a certain price elasticity (i.e. what people are willing to pay for a ticket) and all kinds of other factors such as yield management. I've already written about it: https://www.thailandblog.nl/vliegtickets/retourtje-bangkok-prijzen-vliegtickets/
It is true that the price for a ticket from Bangkok is about 200 euros higher and will remain so for the time being.
That's not quite right Peter, though.
If I fly from the EU to TH and vice versa, I will hold a seat in both directions. When I book a return from BKK, I do nothing else. So that should be separate from supply and demand. J
Dear Ba, I am only the messenger and did not invent it. A tourist simply has a different price elasticity than an expat or Thai who flies to Europe. In other words, despite the fact that the seats are more expensive from Bangkok, they are sold anyway. Knowing that, an airline shamelessly charges more for the same.
Last-minutes are also almost non-existent with airline tickets because airlines know that someone who books late usually has little choice and is therefore willing to pay more.
airlines use ingenious computer systems that take into account the booking behavior of the customer. For example, they can ask for the optimal price for an airplane seat, which is called yield management. Read this; http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yield_management
@KhunPeter
dear Khun Peter, in theory your reasoning that a ticket Bangkok-Europe is more expensive than vice versa because fewer people travel in the opposite direction is of course correct, in the sense that most people leave from Europe than the other way around.
But on the other hand, just like the tourists who fly here from Europe and after their journey back to the airport of departure, it almost always involves exactly the same outward and return flight, regardless of where your first departure was?
In practice, there is no difference at all whether you leave here or elsewhere, right?
I myself fly alternately to California/Flanders every year because I have a daughter living in both countries. But I do book from Bangkok as departure, and then from Brussels/Sacramento as return, for the simple reason that I live here and therefore also depart from here (and return to here).
But still the tickets as mentioned in the article are effectively more expensive. The real reason for this undoubtedly has an economic explanation, but I certainly doubt whether it is as rational as you claim.
Gr Kito
Fewer people fly from Thailand to Europe than the other way around? Those people who go to Thailand don't come back? I really think that most do not stay in Thailand.
it is indeed often the case that flying from AMS to BKK is cheaper, but certainly not always. It is much more expensive during the holiday period, so find out when you want to fly.
Flying “European” during the big holiday is expensive, non-European airlines often much cheaper. Paying for the trip in Thai Bath also often saves a sip on a drink.
I just book from Thailand at the Emirates office AMS and pay in TBT and fly for 502 euros from BKK to AMS vv in May.
Hi Khan Peter,
Thank you for your response, I noticed it but didn't know it Thanks!!
gr. Loes
This is exactly the same between the US and Europe. Europeans flying to the US also pay less than Americans coming to Europe
I sent almost the same question, directly, to China Airlines about a year ago. The answer was completely meaningless, almost laughable.
Best is to accept the situation and, possibly, to search the net for promotions?
Didit.
Just searched on skyscanner.
Outward April 5, return April 26 BKK AMS BKK : 548€ with Malaysian
On the cheapest flight you have a stopover of 6.30 hours and on the return flight one of 5.30 hours. nice price.
Didit.
Thank you Stefaan and everyone else for your comments.
the bangkok-amsterdam tickets are now 640 euros
Very nice price Freddie.
Can you also let us know with which company and on which dates?
Didit.
You can, of course, have an incredible amount of melodious names appearing on the airliner pricing front, but the fact is pretty much out there on the table that said airliners will go to great lengths to overcharge for something that can be classified as a crammed-up livestock carrier. .
All those intelligent booking machines are designed to give you maximum travel, and yes, they indicate loud and clear that there is absolutely NO competition between the aircraft farmers, it all depends on travel price agreements.
Even the pariah of the aviation world between Bangkok and Europe, Mahan Air, has now been pushed into the corner of 150-200 euros more for tickets from Bangkok.
Market prices?
Nonsense.
Deadly grab.
And that is precisely the reason why I no longer go “on leave” to the Netherlands.
I recently booked a ticket with eva airlines (see momondo.nl) from bangkok to Amsterdam visaversa for 29000 baht (approx. 650 euros), of course flying directly, but if you want to fly with another airline with a stopover, it will of course be cheaper.
Because from ams the seats are more “filled” big question. Can the price come down. From bkk, the "filling" is more difficult, therefore the price is higher. Think of it as the "red pick up" in Thailand everyone pays an amount and is full only drive, do you want to leave? Do you pay for the empty seats
Follow Khun Peter's reasoning. Which he quotes, so not inventing himself.
A customer wants to pay as little as possible and society to earn as much as possible.
Dividing this denominator and numerator gives you the ticket price at which the flight can be booked the most.
The fact that the average price for a flight BKK-AMS-BKK is higher than AMS-BKK-AMS is primarily due to the law of supply and demand. As in any economic model.
Furthermore, in the 1st case the aircraft was stationed 2 times in BKK and only 1 time in AMS.
In the 2nd case it is stationed 2 times in AMS and only 1 time in BKK.
The cost price of a flight differs from airport to airport, such as landing fees, taxes, catering, fuel, etc. It is logical that these are included in the ticket price.
A thoughtful person would say, but that plane does nothing but fly back and forth. So per flight the plane is only 1 time in AMS and 1 time in BKK. But from an accounting point of view, this reasoning is not correct. Which, by the way, just like with Khun Peter, does not come from myself.
What does come from me is the idea that if you sell something cheap, you let someone else - who is willing - pay for it.
Otherwise, Eva sometimes has open return tickets for 3 months for around €700, 6 months a little higher. Have already flown 2 times from BKK>AMS>BKK. Advantage open return is useful if you do not know exactly when you will fly back!
For a one-way ticket you are (usually) best with AirBerlin, as they halve the return in pricing, which is usually not the case with the other airlines!
Emnirates offered tickets for 25.000 Bht a few weeks ago. That was explained here on TL-blog. In my opinion, not a bad price. Cheaper is (almost) impossible to get.