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Dear readers,
The situation is, you are married to a Thai and have a house in her name, what if she buys a second house to rent out?
From what I hear, there might be a problem with the utilities (water and electricity) because a Thai can only have a connection at one address.
You also don't want to take advantage of other family members.
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Evert
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Buurman rents out in various locations, mainly to (temporary) workers.
There is water and electricity available simply in his name, and I have the impression that nothing is insured.
The proceeds go into your pocket, there is no tax office and there is no control anywhere.
That's how it works in a free wheeling economy.
Greetings from Trat
If she has a 2nd home, she has a blue Tabien Baan. Without her name in it because she is not officially registered there, but that should normally suffice to get a connection to her name.
And if she rents it out, the new tenant can also be registered as a Thai in that blue Tabien Baan, and pay his own utilities and directly to the utility companies... as it should be.
Evert, what is registered in your wife's name is not registered in your name.
If a Thai has more than 1 house, which is legal(!), he/she has a blue or yellow house book for all the houses.
At every address there is a legal connection for water and electricity.
Whoever pays the monthly bills, landlord or tenant, will not be a concern to the utility companies, as long as they pay.
Not just saying anything: a Thai never has a yellow house book. That is reserved for farang. But a farang can certainly be provided with a blue address book, for example after purchasing a condo. Furthermore: if Evert has built a house on his wife's land, it can certainly be in his name. But I think Evert means that the house he lives in with his Thai wife was paid for by him. That is why he says: "I have a house in her name". Which of course involves a mental twist.
Rijck, It's not... just saying something...!
–A Thai can have a blue or yellow house book.
One of my single Thai friends who owns her own house has a yellow house book.
In Thailand, anything is possible.
She and I don't see why that wouldn't be possible.
—A farang is always initially provided with a blue house book.
Regardless of being a condo or house.
I myself have a house in my name,
Neatly demonstrable in official Thai documents.
Land leased. Chanote is in my safe.
Have a blue house book. Absolutely no need for a yellow house book.
I don't understand the fascination/drive of some Dutch people for the color yellow. 🙂
Rijck is simply right
If your Thai girlfriend has a yellow Tabien Baan it is completely worthless to her.
She must be registered in a blue Tabien Baan.
Every address has a blue tabien baan regardless of whether that home is owned by a Thai or a foreigner. But a Tabien Baan is never proof of ownership, only that the address exists there.
In the blue tabien lane (ท.ร.14, Thor Ror 14) only Thais and Permanent Residents are registered by the municipality.
As a foreigner (non-immigrant) your name will never appear there.
If you, as a non-immigrant, want a Tabien Baan with your name on it, you will have to apply for a yellow Tabien Baan (ท.ร.13, Thor Ror 13) at the municipality with the blue tabien baan.
Then you have 2.
A blue one with the address and possibly the name of a Thai resident or Permanent Resident
A yellow one with the address and your name as a foreigner (non-immigrant).
Is a yellow tabien lane mandatory? No.
It is a municipal document and no foreigner (non-immigrant) is obliged to register with the municipality.
Yes, at immigration.
Here is some information about this
https://thaicitizenship.com/yellow-tabien-baan/
I think William is a special case. After all, he is the one who, as a pensioner, has permission from Immigration to have the “B visa” stamped in his passport next to the “retirement” stamp. That must be because he shows a very realistic view of Thai people and society.
Dear Rijck, I do not have an 'Announcement B-Visa' in my passport with the permission of Immigration.
It is not a case of having permission to have something.
It is simply provided by the Thai authorities.
When applying for a visa at the Thai Embassy in The Hague, I received a passport-page-sized Sticker B visa in my then valid passport.
Subsequently, a retirement visa/extension was issued by Phuket Immigration.
With annual renewal, 'B visa' will be IN the retirement stamp.
When renewing a passport, a B-Visa transfer stamp always appeared on the first page of the new passport, referring to the visa previously issued in The Hague.
However, you are always asked to show the old passport with the original Embassy The Hague Sticker B-visa when renewing your passport.
Recently I read in ThailandBlog about the different visas.
The Visa-B thing was described as being good retirement visas above a certain age(?), if I remember correctly.
You can get a one-year extension as Retired on the basis of a previously obtained Non-B visa. At least that was possible.
Nowadays, people will say that you have to cancel that Non-B by leaving the country and that you will first have to have a Non-O before you can renew as Retired.
However, in your case it will still have been allowed to continue. But at the moment that you have extended as Retired you do fall under the conditions of a Retired and ie working prohibited.
Today you can no longer just apply for a Non-B as was the case in the past and then see what you are going to do with it in Thailand. You will now have to give a reason for this and also provide the necessary documents for that Non-B to be allowed.
Applying for a Non-B at an embassy, to then extend that period of stay in Thailand as Retired will no longer work. That gate has been closed for a long time.
Will even say more.
There was a time when those under 50 could get proof from certain companies that they had been offered a job. With that they could then apply for a Non-B.
It was a fallacy of course, but for a certain price they did get proof of this to apply for Non-B and that went well for a while.
Ultimately, they all got caught or stopped in time.
Dear William,
I can't read that it concerns the person Evert.
What is true is that she lives in a resort where she is also registered, now it is a house that has been empty for a long time, after which, as usual, the water and electricity were turned off after some time and the meters were removed.
So if it needs to be refurbished for rental, you will first have to reconnect it.
What Ronny mentions above may be possible but there is no name indication since she does not live there, I think there should be a name on the invoices. Seems confusing to me that they send 2 invoices to the same person in the same resort.
What makes you think it's a resort? Am I missing something?
But it doesn't matter in itself, just as it doesn't matter that the bill is sent to the same name.
It is the meter numbers that count. And the name registered with the meter number also gets the bill.
It happens quite often that one person has multiple meters in his name and then passes the bill (usually with a little extra) on to the landlord
No, you're not missing anything, but I happen to know of a case.
But one more thing I always thought that applying for a visa is something different than what this topic was about.
This is indeed not about visas, but am I not allowed to respond to such questions?
Or did you think that I only knew about visas and that for the rest I was just walking around here in Thailand without knowing what was happening around me?
We also have electricity and water meters in our house here in Thailand.
By the way, bills are in my name and not my wife's.
Could easily with my yellow Tabien Baan. Also goes automatically from my Kasikorn account (direct debit). Especially practical when we go to Belgium for a while and then we don't have to worry about that.
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“It happens quite often that one person has multiple meters in his name and then passes the bill (usually with a little extra) on to the tenant.”
To return to the original question: the answer is that a Thai woman who owns several houses can simply rent them out, and the tenant will have the water and electricity connections in her name from the relevant utility companies.