Reporter: Gust
Thailand e-visa Brussels. Because my wife and I are going to Thailand for four months and will travel to Sydney for 5 weeks in between, I applied for a TR visa (multiple) online.
On July 26, I uploaded my details via the website of the Brussels embassy and a week later also my wife's details to my account. After a few days I received an email with the request to also provide a 'Bank Statement Certificate'. About three days later, my bank provided the requested document, which was immediately emailed to Brussels. At the end of September my wife received her e-visa and a week later I received mine too.
The departure date of our flight to Bangkok is stated as the 'date of grant' on both visas. It seems to take a long time before you receive the visa, but perhaps they will look at the departure date in Brussels and it will all be delivered on time.
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Fortunately, it was still on time.
I have said before that applying early is no guarantee that you will receive the visa early. The embassy issues the visa as late as possible and this is actually to the traveler's advantage. This extends the validity period of the visa. Especially important with Multiple entries because you can experience multiple entries there.
Such a METV is valid for 6 months, but if it were to be written out immediately, 2 months might already have passed before you leave and you actually start using it. Suppose someone planned to come in with it 5 months after departure, they would no longer be able to do so because it was written out too early.
Whether one has to wait until the last minute is also exaggerated, I think, because I can imagine that many people will then be exhausted from the stress of whether the visa will arrive or not. And the latter can also be avoided by sending it a little earlier.
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Dear Gust,
I was certainly worried about whether you would receive the visa on time!
But in your case you could also have traveled with a tourist stamp and extended it for 30 days.
Then to Sidney and to be welcomed back with a tourist stamp upon return to Thailand.
Response to PEER:
In that case you have to renew for TBH 1900 at the immigration in (in our case) Hua Hin
You must also provide proof of at least 1 overnight stay in Hua Hin, even if you are staying in Cha Am, 20 km further away.
Now we pay € 170,00 each. Otherwise we would have to pay 2 bath twice each time for a hotel stay, while we already paid for our stay in Cha Am.
All in all, we have become a little wiser about the operation of the EVISUM service in Brussels. The message is to have patience!
Indeed Gust and I have been trying to make that clear to everyone for a long time.
Everyone should use the method he thinks best suits his situation.
In this case you preferred a METV and there is nothing wrong with that if you think this best suits your travel plans.
From this report I can therefore conclude that something has changed in the application.
Last year I was able to fabricate something myself to prove my finances, but now that is no longer possible and you MUST go to your bank for a “bank statement”, despite what the site says.
EG stands for example, but that is not true, so you MUST have a bank statement.
This assumes that the applicant has also initially provided proof of finance.
Just because it is the case in Brussels does not mean it is the case in The Hague. Or vice versa of course
Gust's request was sent via Brussels.
I immediately had such a 'Bank statement' drawn up by the bank: the same document, once in my wife's name and once in my name...
Gust is a Belgian and came with a bank statement, which is also stated on the Dutch site, as I mentioned. Therefore it would mean the same thing. Belgian site still offline, couldn't check.
Everyone sends their visa application to e visa MFA, a Thai site.
I don't know whether a start is being made here or whether embassies will get the applications from here.
You also provide financial proof in your application
Almost all fields are red starred, so it is mandatory to fill them in. So I was surprised that Gust received an email to supplement this with a bank statement for his application. Gust must have entered something here, otherwise you will receive the message “incomplete”?! After all red starred box not answered.
However, later an email followed for Gust to provide a bank statement? Which he delivered.
A travel plan is not included in the application for a METV, but it is a requirement.
This is a worthless question, as it concerns a plan that you can always change.
You have to deliver it.
So at some point I received an email from [email protected].
They asked for the travel plan separately, but I had to send it to [email protected].
A Dutch email address of the Dutch embassy.
So is it now the case that you fill in the red starred box finance proof at your own discretion and later receive a notification to provide a bank statement?
Are there more people with experience in this or other area when applying for a METV?
Because from Gust's experience I would say that that has also changed.
1. Request
You submit your application on a general site and it is then forwarded to the relevant embassy according to the information you have entered here.
2.1 Checking your eligibility
Travel Document Holder or…
• Permanent Residency / Current Location…
• Submit To…
https://thaievisa.go.th/static/English-Manual.pdf
2. Bank statement
He will probably have sent something in first and that would not have been sufficient as financial proof for Brussels. They then let us know that they specifically wanted to see a “Bank Statement Certificate” from him. I also cannot see what exactly the requirements are in Brussels now. This may have always been a specific requirement in Brussels.
But as I said, Brussels is not The Hague and vice versa.
But that does not mean that this would suddenly become mandatory in The Hague. I don't know where you get that from. Perhaps it does not have to be a Bank Statement specifically for The Hague if you can sufficiently prove this in another way. It still stands and so it may well be that, just like last time, they will still accept your own fabricated document.
And next time they ask for a bank statement. Just ask for it like Gust did and send it afterwards. So what?
Actually, I'm more surprised that they accepted a “self-fabricated financial evidence” but anyway...
4. Travel plan is indeed a requirement for a METV. Yet in The Hague
“Travel plan for Tourist (ONLY for multiple entries) (download HERE)”
https://hague.thaiembassy.org/th/publicservice/e-visa-categories-fee-and-required-documents
But the fact that there is no specific place to charge it is not so bad.
This is because the website for the evisa has been created for all countries and for the time being it has been limited to standard pages without taking into account the additional requirements of the various embassies. I read on the website of the embassy in Brussels that this would be provided for later in the event of an adjustment. (sorry I can't show it).
It said that if there are specific requirements and there is no specific place provided to upload them, you can upload them with other documents. At the embassy they will be taken apart where necessary.
When uploading my data I added proof of income of my still working wife (=pay slip) and a certificate of my pension. The system accepted this. About a week later I received the mail to deliver a 'Bank statement'…
That will explain it.
The system does not read what it receives and as soon as you upload something the system accepts it.
Only when you arrive at the embassy will they check whether what you have submitted is sufficient.
But if I'm not mistaken, it always said that you had to send a bank statement. Even from the last 3 months I thought but I don't remember exactly.
Even with a pension you had to prove that, I thought.
Sometimes I think it's all exaggerated, but that's just the way it is.
Just like you have to prove with a METV that you have to show tickets for at least 2 entries via air, I thought. I guess who would think of something like that?
Their website is still down which is a long time and I can't check it
AH, ok Gust has (of course) filled in something, which suddenly counts as insufficient for the application.
After all, pay slip and pension certificate and no bank details.
That could be the reason, thanks Gust for clarification. '
It is therefore essential to show bank details. Although it says eg and also “proof of earnings” on the eg list. So it should have been sufficient, otherwise it should not be included as valid evidence.
Gust delivered exactly what was requested.
You can then say that it is actually a form of “phishing”.
Then it may indeed be the case that if you immediately show bank details, everything will go well.
But that is still the question.
And where do you keep getting the idea that 'eg' is or was mentioned in Brussels?
You can't even check it and I can't remember it by heart.
Hopefully we can check that again when they come into the air and if it was mentioned, it was not mandatory.
But it may also have been requested as additional evidence because something was not clear in the data he submitted. This does not mean that it is mandatory for everyone, although it is already clear and it serves as additional evidence.
But bank details could also be a requirement in Brussels and he may not have sent them because he thought they would be sufficient. So the embassy asked him to transfer that.
Just as you did not send that travel plan, although it is clearly a requirement in The Hague. The embassy also asked you to send that.
So it happens more often that mandatory requirements are not included.
But just because Brussels would always demand this does not mean that this would now suddenly also be mandatory in The Hague.
In The Hague there is still eg as far as I can see and if they always want that bank receipt they should just add it.
In principle you will still be able to send in your own fabricated document and if it is clear to them then they will still accept it just like before. If there is someone there who thinks that your self-made document is not clear, you will also be asked for more information and that could also be a bank statement.
So stick to what is stated in The Hague and stop comparing what Brussels demands, where even the price of the visas differs from The Hague.
All embassies have their requirements. There are more requirements there, of which you may now ask yourself whether this should also be the case in The Hague if you continue along these lines.
You can already make a list and send in everything that others ask. You never know if it is now also mandatory in The Hague...
Here are some examples with the link. Then you don't have to look far.
In the examples I limit whether it says eg with a bank statement or not.
You can figure out the rest yourself
Copenhagen bank statement without eg
“A bank statement with minimum balance of DKK 13,500 If using Online Bank Statement, it must show applicant's name and balance.”
https://copenhagen.thaiembassy.org/en/publicservice/visa-types-2?page=604b39526d207964b465dc62&menu=60404a4a74093c5cd22ac082
London bank statement with eg
Financial evidence, eg bank statements, proof of earnings, sponsorship letter
https://london.thaiembassy.org/en/page/tourist-multiple-entries-visa
Berlin bank statement without eg
TR/multiple: Kontoauszüge der letzten 6 Monaten mit mind. 5000 Euro Kontostand jeweils am
end of the month
https://image.mfa.go.th/mfa/0/kjBTSaxCcf/Consular/VISA/Tourist-Visa-TR-Touristm-Leisure-activities-5.pdf
Paris without a bank statement, but there either a bank statement or a pay slip
Justificatif financier (monnaie and euro):
according to current banking data dating back to 30 days, with a non-current payment: compte chèque, compte courant, livret A, livret jeune, with a minimum sold of 1 € par demand (or 500 € for a compte commun ). If you wish to obtain a visa for a minimum period of 3 years, you must complete your banking account and join your bank account (000 € per request) with your current account/livret de famille: pages de parent et d'enfant pour le lien familial ainsi que votre passeport.
according to the salary bulletin dating back to the 30 days
http://www.thaiembassy.fr/fr/visa-rdv/les-types-de-visa-et-les-documents-necessaires/visa-touristique-metv/
I hope you now finally understand that comparing demands from other embassies with The Hague is pointless.
You have to show what is asked and because a bank receipt is or has always been mandatory at one embassy, this would now suddenly also be mandatory in The Hague or they would not be satisfied with another proof.
Gust will have informed himself of what was required for the application and followed up on what was requested. namely “proof of earnings”. Don't think Gust thought, come on, I'll send something.
Perhaps, if there was an actual list.
Gust had read that this should be sufficient and sent “proof of earnings”. After this he was surprised by an email asking him to provide a “bank statement”.
From this point of view, I can logically conclude that a similar list of egs is available on the site in Belgium.
Therefore it can also be concluded, I think, to show a banking event at the same time. This in turn saves the stress of having to send another bank statement afterwards.
That's why I say that it can't and may no longer be in the .eg row, because then they will still ask for a "bank statement", it seems. And that's what I call "phishing".
Your “proof of earnings” has no value for the application.
Actually, an EC list does not exist, because you are asked for a “bank statement” afterwards.
As it now appears, The Hague, London and Brussels are equipped with an EC list.
No, I have not read (Brussels) “hard” about the EC Site being off line.
I have taken note of your diversities, but it seems that the “bank statement” is THE device.
You cannot know or derive from his information what Gust has read
Just that he sent an income. The rest you suppose
But I'll stop doing this because you either don't want or can't understand it. Probably the latter.