Pattaya is not suitable for unsociable and boring people

By The Expat
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20 September 2024

What a lot of complaining about Pattaya in an earlier posting. But the complainers are right, if you are deadly boring and don't like coziness, then Pattaya is not for you at all. Especially staying away is the motto. Because let's be clear, what does Pattaya have to offer you if you can't enjoy yourself in this special vibrant city.

Pattaya is often viewed through a narrow lens, focusing on its nightlife and tourist crowds, but the city offers a huge range of experiences that make it a diverse and appealing destination for all types of travelers. Here are some aspects that are often overlooked by critics and that highlight why Pattaya is worth a visit:

Culinary offerings and international restaurants

Pattaya is a foodie's paradise. You'll find restaurants from almost every corner of the world here. From authentic Italian trattorias like Trattoria Pizzeria Toscana, serving fresh pasta and wood-fired pizzas, to Mantra Restaurant & Bar, a refined dining venue that combines Japanese, Chinese, Indian and Western cuisine in a modern fusion concept. Pattaya is also a paradise for seafood lovers, with restaurants such as Long Kee en The Glass House, serving up fresh catches with stunning ocean views. Whether you’re in the mood for Thai curry, Japanese sushi, Lebanese dishes or French fine dining, the city has it all.

Shows and entertainment

Pattaya is also known for its shows that offer a wide range of entertainment for different audiences. Tiffany's Show en Alcazar Cabaret are world-famous cabaret shows, where transgender artists perform spectacular shows with dance and song. These shows have been attracting visitors for decades and offer a unique cultural experience that cannot be found anywhere else in the world. In addition, there are evening performances such as the KAAN Show, an impressive mix of acrobatics, technology, and traditional Thai storytelling that appeals to locals and tourists alike.

Cultural attractions: Temples and history

Besides the vibrant city life and nightlife, Pattaya also offers a number of cultural and spiritual highlights. The Sanctuary of truth, a massive wooden structure that is still being expanded, is a masterpiece of handmade sculptures. This temple-like building pays tribute to Thai, Cambodian, Indian and Chinese architectural styles, and symbolizes the harmony of philosophy, art, religion and humanity. The Wat Phra Yai (Big Buddha Hill) offers a serene escape, with stunning views over the city and an impressive golden Buddha statue.

Furthermore, there are several temples spread throughout the city, such as Wat Chai Mongkron, where you can participate in traditional Thai ceremonies or simply reflect in silence. These places give Pattaya a spiritual dimension that is often overlooked by tourists who come just for the nightlife.

Shopping malls and markets: shopaholic's paradise

For those who love shopping, Pattaya has no shortage of options. Modern shopping malls such as Central Festival Pattaya Beach and the recently opened Terminal 21 offer a wide range of international brands, luxury boutiques and restaurants. Terminal 21 is unique in its design, with each floor modeled after a different world city such as Paris, Tokyo or Istanbul, adding a fun twist to the shopping experience.

In addition, there are several local markets, such as the Thepprasit Night Market and with Pattaya Floating Market, where you can buy authentic Thai souvenirs, clothing and street food. These markets offer a unique opportunity to experience local culture up close and are a great way to spend an evening.

Nightlife and live music: more than just go-go bars

Although Pattaya's nightlife is known for its go-go bars, there are plenty of other options for those who enjoy music, dancing and fun. Hard Rock Café Pattaya for example offers live rock music, while places like The Stones House en Hops brew house famous venues for live music from local bands. These pubs and bars give you a chance to enjoy relaxed evenings with friends, with good music in the background. If you like jazz, then Jazz Pit highly recommended, an intimate club where talented musicians regularly perform.

For those who want to experience the Thai nightlife culture, there is also the Soi Buakhao Walking Street, where you will find cozy open-air bars with a mix of local and international music. This area offers a relaxed atmosphere where both expats and tourists come together for a night out.

Nature and adventure in and around Pattaya

Pattaya is not only a city of bustle and lights; the area also offers peace and natural beauty. In addition to the previously mentioned island Koh larn, which you can reach in a short boat trip, there are also national parks such as Khao Chi Chan, where a gigantic Buddha is carved into the mountainside.

Pattaya offers a wide range of sporting opportunities for both recreational and serious sports enthusiasts. For golfers, the city is a paradise with renowned courses such as the Siam Country Club and with Phoenix Gold Golf & Country Club, which offer beautifully maintained greens amidst breathtaking scenery. In addition, there are numerous fitness centers and gyms, including fairtex en Pattaya Muay Thai Gym, where you can train in martial arts such as Muay Thai and kickboxing.

Water sports play an important role in Pattaya's sporting offer. On the beaches of Jomtien and Pattaya Beach you can go jet skiing, parasailing, kite surfing and windsurfing. Diving enthusiasts can go to several diving schools that offer excursions to nearby islands and reefs, such as the island Koh larn, where you can enjoy the underwater world.

For those who love adventure, Flight of the Gibbons ziplining through the jungle, while Pattaya Shooting Park and various karting circuits provide an adrenaline rush for action-oriented athletes. Whether you are a seasoned athlete or just want to stay active during your holiday, Pattaya has something for everyone.

Khao Chi Chan Pattaya

Still not convinced?

  • Nong Nooch Tropical Garden: This expansive botanical garden is dotted with exotic trees, flowers and more than 670 orchid species. It offers thematic gardens and live shows, making it a visual spectacle and a cultural experience.
  • Pattaya Beach: This famous beach destination is not only perfect for relaxation, but also for water sports activities such as parasailing and jet skiing, making it a lively and active place.
  • Art in Paradise: This interactive 3D art museum combines contemporary and modern techniques to provide a unique experience. It is fun for both children and adults and provides a surprising experience.
  • Underwater world pattaya: This aquarium houses 2.500 animals and brings a piece of the deep sea to visitors. It offers an educational and entertaining look at marine life.
  • Ripley's Believe It or Not Museum: This museum displays more than 300 unusual and extraordinary objects from all over the world. The variety and oddity of the exhibitions make it a fascinating and entertaining place.
  • Mini-Siam: Visitors can view miniature versions of famous global landmarks here, making it a unique way to experience cultural highlights from around the world.
  • Pattaya Viewpoint: Located on Phratumnak Hill, this place offers beautiful views of the bay and the city, ideal for nature lovers and photography enthusiasts.
  • Naklua Beach: This quiet beach is perfect for families and offers opportunities for swimming and kayaking. It is an oasis of calm compared to the busier Pattaya Beach.

Attention whiners!

  • The image of an 'adult-only' destination
    It’s true that Pattaya is known for its vibrant nightlife, but it’s a misconception that the city is only focused on ‘adult’ entertainment. Pattaya has invested heavily in recent years in creating a family-friendly atmosphere. Think of attractions such as Ramayana Waterpark, Nong Nooch Tropical Garden, and the many beaches in the area, such as Jomtien and Naklua. These offer relaxation and fun for families, couples, and travelers who aren’t interested in nightlife.
  • Overtourism and crowds
    Although Pattaya is a popular tourist destination, the city also has quiet areas that are less visited by tourists. Outside of the city center, you will find serene temples such as Wat Phra Yai (Big Buddha Hill) and quiet beaches where you can enjoy nature. In addition, the nearby island of Koh Larn is a great escape from the crowds, with beautiful beaches and clear water.
  • Negative experiences with tourists
    Many complainers point to the behavior of tourists, but that is a matter of perception. Pattaya attracts travelers from all over the world, and it is this diversity that makes the city vibrant and dynamic. There are plenty of opportunities to meet people, from backpackers to retirees, and everyone finds their own unique place in the city. It is all about what you focus on: it is easy to emphasize the negative side of tourism, but most people come to Pattaya to have fun and experience Thai hospitality.
  • Development and modernization
    Some people complain that Pattaya is modernizing too quickly and losing its charm. But this development has actually made the city more accessible and attractive to a wider audience. New infrastructure, better hotels, shopping malls and international restaurants are making it a more diverse destination, without losing the authentic Thai culture. You can still experience traditional markets, street food and local festivals.
  • Safety and crime
    Like any tourist city, Pattaya has its share of petty crime, but this is no different than in other major cities. Furthermore, the Thai government has taken many measures to ensure the safety of tourists. There is a heavy police presence and regular checks are carried out to keep the city safe. As with anywhere else, use your common sense and be alert, but don’t be put off.

In short, while Pattaya cannot deny its reputation for ‘adult entertainment’, the city offers much more than that. It is a destination with a wide range of activities, cultural attractions, and an ever-expanding modern infrastructure, making it suitable for all types of travellers. The city continues to develop and offers a unique blend of traditional and modern Thailand.

Again, if you are deadly boring, stay away. We are having a great time here!

About this blogger

The Expat
The Expat
The Expat (66) has been living in Pattaya for 17 years and enjoys every day in the land of milk and honey! Previously employed in road and hydraulic engineering, but fled the capricious weather in the Netherlands. Lives here with his Thai girlfriend and two dogs just outside Pattaya, a 3-minute walk from the beach. Hobbies: enjoying life, going out, sports and philosophizing with friends about football, Formula 1 and politics.

38 responses to “Pattaya is not for unsociable and boring people”

  1. GeertP says up

    I have been hearing the critical stories about Pattaya for as long as I can remember, older Farang like myself here in Isaan who usually have a deep hatred for Pattaya, mostly because of their partner.
    When you get to know them a bit better and ask them a few questions, you often hear that they used to come there more often and had a great time and often met their current partner there (who happened to be a manager of a leading company).
    I always advise people who go to Thailand for the first time to go to Pattaya because you really have everything there, the things that might bother you you can easily avoid if you want to.

    • Gilbert says up

      To each his own GeertP.

      I always advise my friends not to spend their first visit to Thailand in Pattaya.

      While everyone is entitled to their opinion, it is clear that cities like Pattaya are mainly geared towards mass tourism. Don't get me wrong, I am not saying that you can't have fun there. What I am trying to emphasize is that Pattaya is not the place to experience authentic Thailand.

      There is so much more to Thailand. It is a country of natural beauty, rich in history and unique cultural diversity. From pristine beaches to deserted mountain ranges, ancient temples to bustling markets — there is so much to discover beyond the borders of tourist hotspots like Pattaya.

      What you find in Pattaya can be experienced just as well in many other tourist destinations in Europe. If you really want to get to know the true beauty of Thailand, I recommend looking beyond mass tourism and searching for the deeper layers of this fascinating country.

    • Rick says up

      An old acquaintance of mine met his other half in a restaurant in the middle of the red light district of Sukhumvit. She worked in the kitchen there, not as a manager but just at the pan. It must have been during a cigarette break that they met each other there, because the kitchen was hidden deep in the back of the building. Although both are non-smokers, she is actually quite a nice girl.

    • Jef says up

      It seems that many tourist cities, such as Pattaya, are more focused on attracting visitors who are willing to spend a lot, while in other parts of the country you can enjoy the real beauty of Thailand without the constant pressure to open your wallet.

      Then you might as well book a holiday closer to home; that would save you a lot of money. If it is mainly about luxury and tourist activities, the added value of a long trip to Thailand is hard to find. You miss the chance to discover the real Thailand, the culture, the nature, and the authentic experience that makes the country unique. You don't have to fly halfway across the world just for the nightlife and tourist attractions.

    • Willy says up

      Geert,

      Ask people who have never been to Thailand why they want to travel to this country, and 90% will answer: 'For the beautiful nature, the rich culture and the delicious food.' Then I don't understand why you would go to Pattaya for two weeks.

      And the remaining 10% goes specifically to Pattaya, the reason is known to us 😉

  2. Rick says up

    A well-detailed and substantiated response to the reactions of the Pattaya sceptics. Now, the Thailandblog is a good reflection of the outside world in terms of negative comments: on all subjects that are highlighted in the media, there are always a few naysayers. They usually energetically oppose the opinion of the authors. Some of them from the bottom of their hearts and others because they are just bullies who want to spread their poison over the internet. I think that category one was better represented under the heading about Pattaya. People who do not (any longer) need the hustle and bustle and who are actually overwhelmed by the chaos, crowds, atmosphere, variety, choices and much more. They are often quiet old people who prefer to sit on their own terrace with a cup of tea or even a glass of beer or at most in the Thai 'brown cafe'. Should be possible, just like Pattaya should be possible for the fans. The problem is, just like in the rest of the internet: the naysayers put their negative opinion under everything and often in a loud voice. The rest, who find it all nice and all, keep their lips sealed and enjoy the article and the city. This gives the impression that the critics are in the majority, but in reality they are in a fairly large minority, perhaps less than 1 percent of the readers.
    One must always keep this in mind, even if every fiber of one's heart and soul rebels against it.
    Fortunately, in this case we are left with an excellent explanation of everything Pattaya has to offer in terms of entertainment, sports, food and even culture, for which many thanks.

    • Herman says up

      Your response towers above all others.

      I have lived in Pattaya for many years and I honestly admit that it has not become any more pleasant in recent years. What really bothers me is the suggestion that a certain group of people would not be welcome here because they 'would' have a different profile. I call that bullying and spitting poison.

      I respect people who prefer quieter places and think that Pattaya is not for them. If they come here and express this, that is their right. They are free to point out the negative points of the city — I see them myself.

      Opinionated members are not skeptics, bullies, critics, poison-spitters or naysayers. These are people like you and me, who have as much right to speak as anyone else. I get the creeps reading this.

      No one ever had to convince me to come and live here; I made that choice myself. I have always enjoyed living here, but as I said, I have to revise my opinion. The city has indeed changed in a negative way, something that many will reluctantly admit. People sometimes say: 'You don't transplant an old tree', and that is probably the reason why I will stay here, even though I might want it differently.

  3. Peter (editor) says up

    I have visited many corners of Thailand. I can enjoy the serene peace in the North and the Isaan but also the hustle and bustle in Bangkok or Pattaya.
    I am a lover of good food and live music and I am well catered for in Pattaya. The many gyms make it complete for me. Pattaya feels like coming home to me every time.
    And all these strange birds here are great! Not run-of-the-mill types, but mostly adventurers with a good story. I love it.
    In that respect, I agree with the expat, there is nothing to do here for boring people.

    • Dominique says up

      Dear Peter,

      I find it a pity that in this topic an extensive paragraph is devoted to the so-called 'whiners'.

      Everyone is entitled to their own opinion, something the editors normally hold in high regard. However, the use of the term 'whiners' gives the impression: "You have a different opinion, so stop complaining, because you are wrong." This suggests that differing opinions are less valuable, which is not in line with the principle of open discussion.

      I find this topic redundant. People could have defended themselves just as well in the previous topic. What I read above seems to me to be nothing more than kicking. Too bad.

  4. Johan says up

    The debate over Pattaya is purely a matter of personal perception.

    There are people who don't like the crowds and mass tourism, and I respect that completely. On the other hand, there are also people who absolutely wouldn't want to live in Issaan, and that is also their right. I respect both points of view.

    What I strongly object to, however, is the provocative statement in the title: “Pattaya is not for unsociable and boring people”I find this unnecessarily polarizing and shows a lack of respect.

    I don't live in Pattaya and I would never want to live there. That doesn't make me boring or unsociable and no one has the right to judge me that way. Such statements don't fit into a respectful discussion and are in my opinion a disgrace to this blog.

    With that I'll leave it at that.

  5. Kim says up

    I have been coming to Pattaya for over 30 years.
    The first few years, going out every day in Walking Street.
    At that time it was not yet called a walking street.
    At that time there were only 2 discos in walking street.
    Had some great times back then.
    Best time of my life.
    I was young then, of course.
    Now a lot older, still very much to my taste
    Fancy Pattaya?
    No more nightlife for me.
    I'm having a great time.
    Sports, walking, swimming, sauna, good food.
    What I don't like that much is the busy traffic.
    More than 30 years ago things were a lot quieter.
    But I accept that.
    For me, Pattaya remains a wonderful city.

  6. Stef says up

    Dear topic starter (The Expat),

    Let us not forget that our beautiful city is also a refuge for many alcoholics, not only among tourists, but especially among the many washed-up foreigners.

    Fortunately, they are often very sociable people, always up for a deep conversation. You can encounter them early in the morning, as soon as the bars along Beach Road open their doors.

    This was also worth mentioning.

  7. KhunTak says up

    Of course you can describe it as being boring and unsociable people, but I would still like to give my opinion on it.
    And let's stick to Pattaya for example and not start whining about those people who are negative about everything.
    Then in my eyes you are also a negative person, simple as that.
    So if I don't like Ajax, am I boring or do I not understand football?
    I myself lived in the Pattaya area for a while and I was relieved to leave for a quieter area. After a regular visit to Pattaya, nice shopping and swinging in the Bamboo bar, no idea if it is still there, I had seen it and had had enough at a certain point.
    A friend of mine lived in Pattaya and once a week we cycled through Pattaya. In the morning and towards the evening. Many holidaymakers and pensioners who had already consumed the necessary early in the morning was often the standard.
    And when we cycled more or less the same route in the evening, people were still there.
    That is a specific category that describes it as a vacation or useful daytime activity.
    Otherwise, for example, in the Netherlands people would have sat behind the geraniums, but not everything, right?
    As the Expat describes, there is plenty of distraction and something for everyone, I completely agree.
    However, I think it is a shame to portray those people who have nothing to do with Pattaya as whiners, boring, etc. In my opinion, that is far too simplistic.
    Is a chess player boring, for many yes, a nerd may also be a bit out of touch with reality.
    But there is a category of people who have a different approach to life, or people who, for example, cannot cope with the intensity of nightlife or the overwhelming noise of music or people who bother others while stoned or completely drunk.
    Like it or not, Pattaya is on a downward slide, that's a fact. Why? Read Asian Now, The Thaiger or Bangkok Post and you'll have your answer.

  8. Omer says up

    Can we please decide for ourselves who Pattaya is or is not suitable for? Publishing such provocative titles does little to contribute to a positive reading experience.

    I have been living just outside Pattaya for years and can be found there almost daily. I hardly have any personal contact with other foreigners, but that does not bother me. I am happy the way I am.

    If the topic starter stubbornly claims that boring and unsociable people have no business here, then we are far from home. Where has the respect gone?

    The above list seems to have little bearing on the type of visitors the city attracts. Wouldn’t it be better to welcome everyone here, without the constant finger pointing? Pattaya has always attracted a diverse group of people, and that is precisely what makes it so unique. Everyone has their own reasons for being here, and these do not have to conform to the personal preferences or judgements of others.

    Let's show more respect for the diverse backgrounds and interests of our visitors, rather than judging them based on subjective ideas of what is "right" for you.

    A few weeks ago we had to hear how unliveable Pattaya would have become because of the many motorcycle gangs and machos who make the streets unsafe with their banging motorcycles. And now the same city suddenly seems to be an earthly paradise, accessible only to people who behave unconditionally "sociable".

    The contrast between these descriptions is striking. It is clear that Pattaya, like any city, has its pros and cons, but it remains a place where different people from different backgrounds seek their own experience. Let us stop painting an exclusive picture of who belongs and who doesn’t. Stop judging others, thank you.

    Signed,

    a whiner

  9. fred says up

    I sometimes wonder why they are so determined to make Pattaya a family-friendly destination??

    As if there aren't enough places in the world where one can go with one's family.

    Then perhaps Pattaya is one of the few seaside resorts in the world where this is not really the case.

    When it was still like this years ago, in my opinion it was a lot nicer, more relaxed and quieter.

  10. RonnyLatYa says up

    I had a great time in Pattaya, especially in the 90s. Unforgettable time that I sometimes think back to with pleasure.

    But as we say in Flemish, “the old fool has come out a bit” and he can now enjoy the peace and quiet of Kanchanaburi-LatYa.

    But if there are those who prefer Pattaya because they like it, why should that be criticized?
    Always waving that finger to determine where someone should spend their leave, how they should do it, what they should eat, what they should drink, how much they should pay, etc., etc., etc.

    Everyone should just find their own place where they feel most at home and let everyone decide for themselves what to do to feel good. That is ultimately the most important thing.

    • RonnyLatYa says up

      The title says “Pattaya is not for unsociable and boring people”

      I wouldn't look at it that way.
      For some it can be a complete game changer.

      I have seen several times that some people return from leave completely different after a few weeks in Pattaya.
      Whether that is always a positive “game changer” is another matter. 😉

      • AndreP says up

        A sensible response from someone who probably has no interest in taking a particular position.

        I also do not comment on whether Pattaya is a nice city to stay in. I live in Chiang Rai and have no intention of visiting the city.

        I find it a shame that the whole discussion is sliding down into a mud fight. The tone of the topic starter is a big cause of that. You can disagree with someone, but when it gets personal, I find that a shame.

        Others.

  11. Edson says up

    I think in the previous topic about Pattaya the Pattaya goers were called pitiful and sad. Then the well-known proverb who throws the ball can expect the ball back is simply addressed in this topic.

    As I said before, it is mainly a personal opinion. I have been to Pattaya before and I thought Pattaya was a great city because of the many bars with live bands. The last time I was in Pattaya was early this year and I found the crowds too suffocating. Even on the road, it takes so long to get to your destination with the baht bus. The composition of the visitors has also changed, which can also have an effect on the atmosphere in the city. Where I used to be able to stay in Pattaya for more than a week, that is now limited to a few days and then I really have to leave for a somewhat quieter island.

  12. Walter EJ Tips says up

    2 comments from a boring person (after an eventful life of 40 years)

    1. Bookworms can find what they are looking for at the Canterbury Bookshop (see internet), at Jagger's Bookshop in the so-called Soi Batman but there only German literature, and in Huai Yai (20 km from Pattaya) the White Lotus publisher and bookshop (see website). The latter only for people who also like to learn something about the Thais and Thailand.

    2. The best motto: In Pattaya you can find everything but nobody forces you to participate in anything.

    Another good tip: bring money!

  13. Marc says up

    Why Pattaya is not at the top is quite simple.
    In one word “too much”, too much of everything, too hectic, just like BKK by the way, you hardly find any coziness there anymore.
    The given characteristics are indeed correct and are very good for those who like that hectic
    I visited Pattaya last year, and almost immediately the hectic atmosphere confirmed my feeling, no, not for me.
    I live and work in Hua Hin where you can find almost the same entertainment and other possibilities as in Pattaya but on a much smaller scale and much more relaxed.
    Stay away from Hua Hin I would say, leave us alone! Feel free to go to Pattaya!

    • TheTurk from Urk says up

      Why Hua Hin is not at the top is also simple. Too many, especially too many elderly people. Hua Hin is one big open-air retirement home. If you already have one foot in the grave, it is of course a great option.
      And the expats are bored to death, so the number 1 national sport in Hua Hin is: lots of gossiping about each other.

      • Tony says up

        It's as if the elderly Expats in Pattaya aren't bored. What nonsense.

        Just walk along Beach Road and you will see them in the many bars staring aimlessly into space, preferably with a big pint in front of them. And this at any time of the day.

        But you are right, in Pattaya the elderly do not gossip about each other. In Pattaya you have to be to make good friends and have pleasant conversations. And preferably at the bar.

        Let everyone decide for themselves where it is good to stay. Your opinion on this is unimportant and shows a lack of respect.

      • Tom says up

        Pure bar talk. Irreverent and based on nothing.

        Such a claim seems more like gossip to me. I don't see why there would be relatively more and older expats living in Hua Hin than in other cities.

        If you can prove this, I will gladly believe you. If not, it remains nonsense talk with the sole purpose of provoking here.

        No, I don't live in HuaHin, nor in Pattaya and I am not yet very old (64 y.o.).

    • Louis says up

      I think the same about the hustle and bustle. As you get older you can tolerate it less well.

      Are we boring or unsociable? It is amazing that even the editors repeat this. Actually inappropriate. I will not be pushed into a corner because I have a different opinion.

  14. Dre says up

    Pattaya………, Ask a foreigner what he knows about Thailand. The answer you will always get is: Pukhet, Pattaya and Bangkok. Says enough, right?
    Do you really think that all those tourists come to Thailand to visit some temples?
    Exploring the “Love Temples”, yes.
    My opinion,
    Dre

    • Willy says up

      For the real connoisseurs: “Erika's Hills”go explore 😉

  15. William says up

    The mix of reactions is fantastic. So for Pattaya: Freedom, happiness. Go there or not. A choice.
    Reading the article reminded me of the 20 foreign pensioners who were arrested in the morning by the Pattaya police and booked as criminals because they were playing bridge in their club.
    Is the Pattaya police better trained in international social understanding and thinking today?

  16. Kris says up

    I don't believe this topic was created to inform readers about what to do in and around Pattaya. It seems more to emphasize that some people can't accept that others have their own vision of THEIR Pattaya.

    Terms like 'complainers', 'whiners', 'unsociable' and 'boring' people only indicate a lack of tolerance. Such behavior not only undermines the level of our forum, but is also inappropriate in a space where respect for different opinions should apply.

    Personally, I have little desire to get involved in discussions with people who impose their views and show little respect for other points of view. Such personalities, who seem to focus solely on putting others down, add nothing to me and do not contribute to a positive interaction. The many responses above seem to confirm this.

    Stay in your bubble of tolerant and friendly people. I would never feel at home there.

    • Peter (editor) says up

      Of course, that respect goes both ways. Is it right to always be negative about Pattaya, while there are plenty of Belgians and Dutch people who live there happily?

      • Bart says up

        What do you mean Peter,

        The opinion of someone who speaks positively about Pattaya is just as valuable as that of people who are less enthusiastic about the city. I don't understand why critics should suddenly be dismissed as 'unsociable' and 'boring'. Even the use of the term 'whiner' is absurd.

        In the previous topic that is referred to, I do not see any personal attacks. The title of this topic is provocative. Moreover, I even read that expats in Hua Hin are portrayed as old men who love nothing more than gossiping (has nothing to do with this topic).

        Well, I don't really care. I just notice that certain members defend their city tooth and nail and don't hesitate to condemn those who think differently, just because they have a different opinion.

        I wouldn't even dare call this a real discussion anymore.

  17. FrankyR says up

    Haha,

    Funny to see that those who are almost always negative about Pattaya, now suddenly feel addressed. And then dare to write about 'respect' or 'interaction'.

    In short, they were shown a mirror and they didn't like what they saw! Better to manage your negativity about Pattaya, BKK and Phuket a bit more wisely?

    Best regards,

  18. fred says up

    Who finds Pattaya a bit too much of a good thing can still opt for Jomtien Beach? You have the same facilities but all to a slightly lesser extent. It is also a lot less crowded there, you can walk better and the beach is neater and more beautiful. Who wants to is in the heart of Pattaya within fifteen minutes.

  19. Mister BP says up

    When you label people with a different opinion as deadly boring, you are indicating the following:
    1. You have no problem insulting others when they have a different opinion
    2. You seem to have a preference for flat entertainment and the people that go with it
    We have been to beautiful Thailand 21 times and Pattaya is one of the few places that does not appeal to us at all, but hey, everyone has their own opinion.
    If you like what the city has to offer and everything around it then enjoy it without attacking others and saying that they find it deadly boring. I am surprised that this piece was allowed to be posted
    If I were to go to Thailand for the first time, I would find this piece lacking any objectivity and therefore of little or no use to me.

    • FrankyR says up

      Quote: “You apparently have a preference for flat entertainment and the people that go with it”

      Hm,

      Who's attacking now?! This is what the writer means!

      Best regards,

  20. antoon says up

    I just saw this topic and nearly fell off my chair.

    If the topic starter unleashes such polarizing opinions on our readers, then I get the impression that he himself must not be a pleasant or sociable person.

    Regardless of the love for the city of Pattaya, the list of all the fun activities and experiences that can be found there, there are always people who love it and others who prefer quieter places. Both groups have their own reasons for their preference, and there is nothing wrong with that.

    I am deliberately not going to express my opinion, because then I run the risk of disappearing into the corner of shame. Many topics pass by here every week that can be discussed in all maturity. However, I find this topic completely inappropriate, not because of the topic itself, but because of the way in which a certain group is directly attacked from the start.

  21. greeting says up

    What a fuss. And for what?

    Our expat has had his say, really stepped on the toes of all those 'boring' people. Who knows, maybe he's rubbing his hands in snickers now, satisfied that he's achieved his goal: sowing discord.

    Tomorrow this topic will be closed, and life will go back to normal. The friendly inhabitants of Pattaya will quietly drink their beers, while the others enjoy the peace, the splendor and the glory of their garden.

    And so the farmer ploughs on. Don't forget to enjoy, dear people 😉


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